Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: Koz1
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: AdmdeVilleneuve
This article by David Axe today on the F-22 is interesting:
http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2014/09/23/when_the_french_shot_down_an_f-22_107455.html
Hmmmm....well, once, when flying an F-14 off the USS Theodore Roosevelt, I had clearly and thoroughly defeated a French Mirage in a scheduled air combat maneuvering sortie. Yet, while I was behind him, with my gunsight on his cockpit...he was saying "Magic, Magic" on his radio...implying that he was taking a heat-seeking missile shot.
What he was shooting at was a mystery to me...there was nothing in front of him (from my vantage at his 6 o'clock, I could see what he was seeing)...just me, squarely behind him, in complete victory.
Funny...when he reported back to his base, the French squadron claimed that he had shot me with his "Magic" missile...which, unless that thing fires backwards (it doesn't), was clearly impossible. A blatant falsehood. No proof, other than his radio call (back to his controller) that he was firing a "Magic" missile...and I had my HUD footage of the gunsight on his canopy...but it was classified footage...so we didn't argue the ridiculous claim.
So, I wouldn't give a ton of credibility to the French Fighter Pilot...any French Fighter Pilot...particularly not this grainy HUD shot in which they claim to have shot an F-22...
In 1993 France employed a Helmet-mounted display part of the Mirage that could shoot anything down as long as their head was pointed in the direction.
When prototypes are taken into account that date could stretch as far back as the mid 70s when the South Africans employed one, so yes its possible.
No, it's really not possible. Cueing and shooting are not the same thing.
At a range of 1,000 feet, there was no way to cue, and no missile capable of an over the shoulder shot at that close range. Some missiles now are capable of being shot aft of a 3-9 line, but they sure weren't then, and he sure didn't have them.
It was a completely bogus shot, like a guy on his back in a wrestling match, with his shoulders touching the mat, saying, "I win, I win" because only the audio was recorded...while he was completely and utterly defeated.
Your sure not possible at all, full sphere launch ability aka secret missile.
After launch capability.
Anyway have a great day.
Cheers.