Most of your concerns have been long-addressed by now Drew. Are you reading carefully?
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
How can we model the weather??? For someone such as yourself who claims to be up on this stuff, I would think you'd have understood the history of
computer guided weather models, the basis of which is commercial aviation.
http://amdar.noaa.gov/docs/bams/
Who programs the computer to make the data useful?
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The data generated by commercial aircraft, satellites, radar, grounds stations, and weather balloons, is the basis for how humans understand the weather, input data, and model the future.
And this information tells us what? How the atmosphere works, no?
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Again, you seem to think radio waves have some kind of power over water vapor,
Science in general already knows that radio waves have 'some kind of power' over water. Your microwave oven doesn't work by magic, and ground-based ionospheric energy weapons are modestly more advanced than your microwave.
Some information re: "HAARP" as a particle beam weapon.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/haarp/esp_haarp_17.htm
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If the HAARP signal rotates so the ions circle around with their north poles pointing downward, then they are repelled by the earth's magnetic north pole and are shot out into the vacuum of space at nearly the speed of light. Wow, you mean HAARP is a particle gun? You betcha! The largest one around, sorta.
But its not really a "gun" because you can't aim it at anything. The particles simply shoot off into space. But they are still spiraling and are magnetic, and as a result they follow along the earth's magnetic field. In less than half a second they arrive at the earth's south pole. There, they don't even touch the atmosphere but are caused to spiral more tightly by the earth's converging magnetic field lines, until they are made to flip over and are shot right back to the north pole, all in less than a second. Thus HAARP is really a particle injector which fires billions of ions into the "magnetic bottle" of the earth's magnetosphere, where they remain trapped for a long time.
I suggest checking out that whole page. But I didn't even want to talk about HAARP. Just the aerosol ops
Anyway, these tangents are beside all pertinent points. Let's not get ahead of ourself.
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the energy from the sun, and the Earth's spin.
Ah yes, the sun and the Earth's coriolis forces.
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NONSENSE, and anyone with half a brain knows this. There is no way for humans to indue enough energy on planet Earth to
overcome natural processes in the atmosphere beyond the synoptic scale. We are talking entire yearly outputs of human generated energy being a drop in a bucket compared to how much energy the sun produces on Earth's surface.
Again (and again) no one is trying to 'overcome', create or override natural forces but rather manipulate the existing, and daily delivered energy that already exists by forcing it's transformation as one sees fit. READ: THE ULTIMATE WEAPON
I mean, it's not hard to abandon that straw man. Shannow used the car analogy, and to apply it to your strawman, would have you suggesting that one would need spark plugs with enough energy to plasmify the gas inside the cylinder enough to force the piston down, rather than use a fraction of a watt to trigger another natural process.
We know what happens when we condense water vapour out of the atmosphere into clouds.
First, they take up less space, causing a barometric pressure change (drop). Aside from immediate pressure changes (read: WIND), enter enthalpy. The condensed gas (water vapour) is now cloud steam, and now exhibits a thermodynamic potential to the atmosphere around it. This is why low pressure systems` are associated with hot hazy "smoggy" weather. Also, the aerosols used have health effects.
By spraying over cities, or over the ocean next to cities (like LA), this ARTIFICIAL CLOUD CONDENSATION NUCLEI doesnt turn into nice cumulus clouds, it turns into SMOG. The SMOG begins to heat itself up, as described above, now with the synergistic effect of albedo! Forget the simple understanding of albedo, because the smog's effect on it is effectively as a low-pass filter for sunlight.
That means that higher wavelengths are either rejected or red-shifted and retained, while lower wavelengths (like IR) are severerly refracted and TRAPPED, energizing the anthropomorphic smog even further! This smog mass only needs to meet with a drier, colder air mass to begin precipitating, violently. A natural phenomenon that can easily be scheduled, and whose scale can be augmented.
THE HOTTER AND MORE ENERGETIC THE 'WARM MASS' IS, AND THE COLDER AND DRIER THE COLD SYSTEM IS = THE MORE VIOLENT THE ENERGY TRANSFORMATION BECOMES WHEN THEY MEET. This is elementary! Just remember condensation, and the barometric changes resulting the next time you experience stupid destructive weather that's become so common recently. Condensation would need to happen VERY RAPIDLY to induce such extreme winds, which are now rushing to fill in the space left by condensing water vapour. Again, the process is natural, however the degree (and frequency) is HIGHLY SUSPECT.
So, can anyone guess what the cold air sagging from the Arctic, down the center of the continent, deep into the USA will do when met with Gulf or artificially energized system that's riding the jetstream?
Look, this isn't complicated. The atmosphere is a battery and we're learning (or have learned, I should say) how to charge it up more and more (using the natural energy sources and anthropomorphic stimuli) and we're pushing the limits on the "loads" used to discharge the 'battery' (colder, drier air from further north, sharper temperature differential gradients along the jet stream, catalyts iodide bombs etc)
So, what happens when you plant CCN in the stratopause and condense water vapour where it would NOT BE NATURALLY condensed (save for maybe volcanoes)? Well? Apart from supreme diffusion on the way down, and the drawing of water vapour upwards, you get that nasty overcast! A TOTALLY UNNATURAL CONDITION (unless we had volcanoes everyday
How can small stimuli and careful planning of aerosol operations have any such effect on maybe the greatest force on the planet? Well, in that last thread about UFOs we already went over these things, including how many cubic miles that one pound of CCN aerosol can effect into condensation. Without scouring the thread, I believe the value was "a lot".
