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#3468988 - 08/30/14 02:25 AM Any sense in saving lower control arms ?
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Registered: 01/30/07
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I replaced the lower control arms, but what to do with the old ones? For now I'm saving them to rebuild is case I ever find bushings for them, but as of now, the bushings are not available separately and I don't know if they ever will be. The ball joints however, are readily available. Right now I'm trying to find a box to store them in. What would you do? Keep them or toss them?

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#3468989 - 08/30/14 02:28 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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If standard bushes aren't available would you consider poly bushes? They're available for pretty much everything.

Save them with all your other scrap and weigh it in at the scrapyard.
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#3468991 - 08/30/14 02:34 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Olas]
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Yeah, polyurethane bushings would be fine if there were some available that fit.

You guys say "bushes" over there in England? Over here, "bushes" has a whole different meaning.
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#3468995 - 08/30/14 02:46 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Yeah we call them bushes over here..
Bush has two meanings over here, too wink
(unless you count the family, then it has three)
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#3469077 - 08/30/14 08:41 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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can you find a bushing thats close and mill it to fit?
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#3469150 - 08/30/14 10:03 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Trash or recycle. Don't be a pack rat.

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#3469418 - 08/30/14 03:44 PM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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keep in a giant pile of other scrap metals and take it to the junkyard after you get a truckload worth. took me about 2-3 years but it was satisfying and worth it.
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#3469432 - 08/30/14 03:58 PM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Registered: 11/20/06
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If you didn't feel like rebuilding them now why would do it later? Toss em.
I am buying a couple of front bushing from moog, mine are okay at this point but i want the new joint type, did you get these?
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#3469447 - 08/30/14 04:22 PM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Trav]
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Trav - mine aren't the new joint type because the mounting bolts go in horizontally, but the bushings are the new trick polyurethane bushings and the attached ball joints are greaseable. I got the Moog Problem Solver lower control arms. From now on, all my future suspension parts will be Moog Problem Solver.

The old control arms are the factory originals and they're in great shape except for the rubber bushings being worn out. It's a California car, so the arms have never seen road salt. It just seems like a shame to throw them away when all they need is new bushings and ball joints.

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#3469534 - 08/30/14 06:52 PM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Registered: 08/30/04
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Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
I was just reading the Tension Strut Bushing instructions on BMW TIS, and the manual states that bushings can only be pressed out of the aluminum arms ONCE. Some members have stated that the arms can distort if you attempt to service the bushings.

Are your arms aluminum, or are they steel?

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#3469760 - 08/31/14 01:48 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Have you seen any other owners with the same car ever able to replace the bushing separately? If not, chances are it is not worth saving the old arms.
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#3469788 - 08/31/14 04:22 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: The Critic]
Merkava_4 Online   content


Registered: 01/30/07
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Are your arms aluminum, or are they steel?


They're aluminum.

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#3470019 - 08/31/14 11:55 AM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Registered: 06/15/03
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Loc: ME
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
It's a California car, so the arms have never seen road salt. It just seems like a shame to throw them away when all they need is new bushings and ball joints.[/font]


I have an axe that only needs a new head and maybe a handle. wink

Seriously, lining up the new ball joint so it'll take an alignment will he harder for you than at the LCA factory. BTDT.

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#3470049 - 08/31/14 12:25 PM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Registered: 11/20/06
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Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
I will try their new front bushing because its patented and not available from anyone else but i wont use their parts for anything else, burn me once your fault, burn me twice my fault for being a stupid arse. Thats my opinion of Moog in general.
Now it seems Deeza might be having problems so its Raybestos pro or OE only. The last thing in the world i want is zerk fittings, they are a real deal breaker.
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#3470148 - 08/31/14 03:48 PM Re: Any sense in saving lower control arms ? [Re: Trav]
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Originally Posted By: Trav
I will try their new front bushing because its patented and not available from anyone else but i wont use their parts for anything else, burn me once your fault, burn me twice my fault for being a stupid arse. Thats my opinion of Moog in general.
Now it seems Deeza might be having problems so its Raybestos pro or OE only. The last thing in the world i want is zerk fittings, they are a real deal breaker.


And I'm sure you knew that Federal Mogal bought Raybestos, right? I was talking to the NAPA Chassis rep the other day when this came up. He had no answers when asked if FM (Moog) would ruin the NAPA Chassis line (Raybestos Pro) with their hideously sucky boots and gusher bearings or not...
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