Originally Posted By: DustyBones
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
Originally Posted By: DustyBones
I must say this is the funniest thing I have read in a while. I will tell you this. Your oil god you bow to has not run it in a E-TEC II motor where it showed instant clatter and rough idle and poor fully warmed up performance. I have. Would you use that oil again, no matter the brand? Would you run it 30,000 miles because someone online says its normal for a superior oil to exhibit such traits? Heck no. Then when people come here and post [censored] man, yall said this iis the oil the gods use, why is my car so noisy now, drink the oil and run rough. Then the fans come in with run it for 20,000-30,000 miles. Yeah right. Somehow it will smooth out after 30,000 miles. Say what? All that tells me is hey man, let the sludge build up so it can dampen the noise. No way 30,000 miles of a noisy oil will magicaly get more quiet as you use it.
The real trolls are the ones handing out faulty advice to keep filling the motor with it. That is some seriously flawed advice. Also observe I never tell anyone to use my brand because the high iron in a UOA is normal in superior oil, the consumtion is more than normal over your old fill and the noise will become normal to you over time. I have only said use what works best in your application. If M1 works fine for you with extra noise and consumption then good for you. Not for me. (I am talking about me, not you)
Just get it through your head. I will bow, I will not convert. My Harley told me it likes VR1 best, so I use it. The Primary and trans told me to use Formula+. so I use that. CHM runs better in the car than M1 does, so I use it. It will never go in the truck. I wont risk the wasted money on it from hearing it in similar trucks that are used for working and not to go to starbucks for a half caf no milk latte as the heaviest load it will haul.
Some people prefer personal experience for the choices they make over what a fan club says on the internet. Nothing wrong with that. It is obvious the OP has an issue with the performance of M1, the fan boys say no way, its the best ever, dont use anything else it will hurt my (your) feelings. Who cares, its his truck, more than likely it will run better on something else.
FWIW, we had a D-TEC engine (same as the E-TEC) in a 2001 Daewoo Leganza with under 100,000 miles on it and even with regular maintenance (oil changes in less than 5,000 miles, sometimes with synthetic) the rods started knocking horribly before we eventually unloaded it for a fraction of what we paid. I think those engines are just pretty garbage, IMO.
I've never noticed a difference in engine noise/vibrations/performance between oils in any engine I've ever maintained.
Did you just say an OHC motor rod knocked? As in push rod? I never heard anyone call a knock in a OHC motor a rod knock.
I bet if you would not have ran M1 in it, it would have been fine. I doubt mine would have lasted this long running that oil in it. FWIW I had that motor in another car and it got destroyed in a crash. It ran so well on GTX for 200,000 miles with nothing but oil and spark plug changes on the motor, I bought another one. Same story. Lasting a loooong time on GTX. Same plan. Plugs and the oil every 7500 miles. I never heard of someone dumping a car or motor because they ran the wrong oil, but to each their own.
Edit. When I did the last timing belt on it I changed the valve cover gasket from a tiny weep around one of the plugs. Inside looked great, but that was done long before I knew such M1 fan clubs exsistd. Shoulda taken pics, but even then I would be called a liar. No way anyother oil than M1 has a motor look that clean on part syn oil for 7500 mile OCIs.
The fans are always right lmao.
The valve train in our Daewoo was very clean, too. I never ran Mobil 1 in it. Thanks for assuming, though. BTW, push rods are not the same as connecting rods.
Also, I do not believe the failure was due to the type of oil used. More than likely, the oil pump or filter failed, water somehow got ingested, or there was a manufacturing defect.
