DID Chain problems

[BusyLittleShop]

A modern X ring chain sports 4 low drag contact points which are as
effective as your fork seals in separating external and internal
fluids... that means no amount of external oil (RED) can reach the
critical pin and roller junction behind the X ring to extend its
service life... consequently my definition of a worn out chain is
after the 3rd adjustment because that is undeniable evidence that the
factory installed grease is beginning to fail to lube the critical pin
roller junction hidden behind the X ring... the length of the chain is
growing because of this metal to metal wear... I can not call a chain
serviceable that is grinding metal... it's like saying that a dry
bearing that runs ruff is acceptable... the net result is another 2 to
3% drop in RWHP as more energy is lost grinding metal behind the X
ring...

 

[nomochevys]

In regards to x and o ring chains would the age of them have anything to do with service life? Just curious. Mine is almost 12 years old.

 

[nomochevys]

Originally Posted By: BusyLittleShop
A modern X ring chain sports 4 low drag contact points which are as
effective as your fork seals in separating external and internal
fluids... that means no amount of external oil (RED) can reach the
critical pin and roller junction behind the X ring to extend its
service life... consequently my definition of a worn out chain is
after the 3rd adjustment because that is undeniable evidence that the
factory installed grease is beginning to fail to lube the critical pin
roller junction hidden behind the X ring... the length of the chain is
growing because of this metal to metal wear... I can not call a chain
serviceable that is grinding metal... it's like saying that a dry
bearing that runs ruff is acceptable... the net result is another 2 to
3% drop in RWHP as more energy is lost grinding metal behind the X
ring...

It sounds like you have a good handle on what all is going on with chains. What do you recommend for maintaining one and at what intervals. Thanks.

 

[Robenstein]

I use the Du Pont chain saver on my Triumph. I lube it every 300 to 500 miles or after it being in the rain. When the chain looks dirty I use kerosene and a toothbrush to remove the grime and then make sure to wipe it down with a shop rag.

So far I have 13k on my chain and sprokets and they still look good. Only needed a slight adjustment once besides when I put a new rear tire on.

 

[BusyLittleShop]

Originally Posted By: nomochevys


It sounds like you have a good handle on what all is going on with chains. What do you recommend for maintaining one and at what intervals. Thanks.


Motul was giving free samples of their new Chain Paste and after 400 miles I
believe it's the smartest product on the market and the right solution
everyone has been looking to *properly* lube their chain and sprockets
because it brushes a layer of white grease like from the factory that
clings with no flings...

Motul Chain Paste... squeeze the white grease from the tube and load
the brush...

Hold the loaded brush to the inside of the chain rollers to transfer
the white grease...
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After a couple of spins of the chain it's lubed like from the
Factory...

Motul Chain Paste clings with no flings...

 

[Robenstein]

That chain paste looks like it would be a dirt magnet though. Like a thick grease, dust is just going to love to cling to that unless it dries after being applied.

 

[Mackelroy]

There's two type of riders, and the majority don't put enough miles or ride them hard enough to matter. But the majorities primary focus is on clean. Riders that do the time and tend eat chains are only interested in Longevity of componentry, and function.

On the street you want the strongest stuff you can get that cuts metal to metal contact, dust and dirt is not an issue on the street other than for garage queen riders.

Now offroad is a different story, you definitely don't want anything that attracts a lot of dirt, but on the street there's no reason not to take advantage of very strong film strength where you can take advantage of the longevity it offers with your compentry.

As far as some street lubes, alittle fling doesn't bother me, what does bother me is stuff so nasty it wont even clean off well with wd40. Blue label to name one, its like glue.

 

[sunruh]

i agree bigmac.

street that stuff looks pretty awesome.

dirt no way i would even consider it.