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#3446781 - 08/05/14 02:17 PM Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 89
Loc: New Jersey
To preface, I do these to satisfy my curiosity more than anything else, but this looks like a nice boring report to me.

This was actually the second OCI on Kendall GT-1 Synth Blend 5w20, I am now on my third fill of that oil. The engine really does seem to like this oil and runs unbelievably quiet and smoothly once its warmed up.

Vehicle: 2013 Kia Sorento EX 3.5L V6
Miles on Vehicle: 33900
Miles on Oil: 6800
UOA was done by Polaris Labs. Previous were done by Blackstone.

I don't see Flashpoint listed, fuel was listed as <1 soot was <.1 water was <.1.

They claimed TBN was slightly low at 3.94. Overall I'm impressed, though this OCI was easy miles, a solid 4k miles of it was done via highway road trip, and it only took 2.5 months to cover almost 7k miles.

I'll feel comfortable going up to 7k or out to the manual limit of 7500 miles.

Code:
OIL	                Kendall 5w20 QSGB 5w20   Nextgen 5w20
MILES IN USE	        6.8k	     5.5k        5k
MILES	                33900	     13695       8195
SAMPLE TAKEN	        07/24/14     09/07/13    06/23/13
MAKE UP ADDED	        0 qts        0 qts       0 qts

Aluminum		5	     6           11
Chromium		0 	     0           0
Iron			6 	     8           13
Copper			6	     10          20
Lead			0	     1           0
Tin		        0            0           0 
Molybendum		21	     97          185
Nickel			0	     0           0
Manganese		0	     1           2
Silver			0	     1           2
Titanium		81	     0           0
Potassium		0 	     2           1
Boron			42	     52          4
Silicon			13	     19          45
Sodium			15	     37          0
Calcium                 2307 	     1938        2251
Magnesium		10	     12          23
Phosphorus		718	     659         735
Zinc			770	     713         859
Barium			0	     0           1

SUS Visc @ 210F	                50.6        53.7
cSt @ 100C		7.42	7.46        8.38
Flashpoint F	                435         385
Fuel %				<0.5        <0.5
Antifreeze %	        	0.0         0.0
Water %				0.0         0.0
Insolubles %	        	0.2         0.4
TBN        		3.94	2.0         2.0
Oxidation		10
Nitration		9	

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#3446813 - 08/05/14 02:44 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
bigt61 Offline


Registered: 02/12/13
Posts: 1563
Loc: Virginia
Yeah, it's boring all right. Boring and good. That Kendall syn blend has some great wear #'s. I'd buy it if I ever saw it for a reasonable price. Cheapest place to get it is to let Firestone Quick Lube do the change.
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#3446831 - 08/05/14 03:03 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: bigt61]
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 89
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: bigt61
Yeah, it's boring all right. Boring and good. That Kendall syn blend has some great wear #'s. I'd buy it if I ever saw it for a reasonable price. Cheapest place to get it is to let Firestone Quick Lube do the change.


Where do you think that OCI came from? It was even on whatever filter they use. smile
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#3446834 - 08/05/14 03:06 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
bigt61 Offline


Registered: 02/12/13
Posts: 1563
Loc: Virginia
Yeah, I'm not surprised - there's only so much shelf space for oil at Walmart.
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#3446867 - 08/05/14 03:43 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
walk23 Offline


Registered: 05/16/11
Posts: 557
Loc: TX - TEXAS
Certainly wish Kendall GT-1 synthetic and blend were more readily available. My choice of oil through breakin on my '13 Altima.
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#3447006 - 08/05/14 05:25 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
Oregoonian Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 2226
Loc: Bend, Oregon
Amazon has KendallGT1 Syn/Blend 5w20 for a reasonable price in 12 queat boxes.
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#3447238 - 08/05/14 08:59 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
sicko Offline


Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 1402
Loc: Virginia
You can also use the Kendall website to find a distributor near you. I have one near me where I can get the Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic with Liquid Titanium for $4 a quart. Only caveat is that you can't buy single quarts, it has to be by the case.

For those without a distributor near them, you can order the Kendall full synthetic from Petroleum Service Company for under $60 a case including shipping. Best price from them is when you buy two cases at a time.

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#3447494 - 08/06/14 06:19 AM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: sicko]
Patrick0525 Offline


Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 28
Loc: PA
Please post the name of the distributor who sells Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic with Liquid Titanium for $4 a quart? Thanks
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#3447530 - 08/06/14 06:57 AM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: sicko]
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 89
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: sicko
You can also use the Kendall website to find a distributor near you. I have one near me where I can get the Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic with Liquid Titanium for $4 a quart. Only caveat is that you can't buy single quarts, it has to be by the case.

For those without a distributor near them, you can order the Kendall full synthetic from Petroleum Service Company for under $60 a case including shipping. Best price from them is when you buy two cases at a time.


I got mine from PSC. As I live in NJ (they're in PA) shipping was cheapish. I should be moving out of state in the next couple months but I'll probably still buy from them, just 2 cases at a time.

Given how the numbers look plus the engine seems to like the oil given its quiet and smooth operations I see no reason to change anything.
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#3448169 - 08/06/14 05:59 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 2437
Loc: Massachusetts
Only bad thing in this report is copper and I'm really splitting hairs here. But i believe it does have to do with the viscosity loss(minor). Other than that it is indeed a great report.
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#3448192 - 08/06/14 06:25 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Patrick0525]
sicko Offline


Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 1402
Loc: Virginia
Originally Posted By: Patrick0525
Please post the name of the distributor who sells Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic with Liquid Titanium for $4 a quart? Thanks


Petroleum Service Company has the best price online, they have the Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic w/Liquid Titanium for around $4 a quart, and shipping is reasonable if you buy two cases.

If you don't want to pay shipping, check http://www.phillips66lubricants.com/marketers-distributors/ to see if you have a distributor near you. A lot of them will sell to individuals, and they'll probably be selling Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic w/Liquid Titanium for around $4 a quart, and you don't have to pay shipping because you're picking up the case(s) yourself.

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#3448619 - 08/07/14 07:46 AM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 5179
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Excellent report, one of the best I've seen for a Hyundai/KIA on 5w20. Our KIA also ran scary quiet on an oil with ti (Castrol).
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#3448926 - 08/07/14 02:38 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: KCJeep]
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 89
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Excellent report, one of the best I've seen for a Hyundai/KIA on 5w20. Our KIA also ran scary quiet on an oil with ti (Castrol).


If I change to a different oil I would probably try something else with Ti in it, the engine really seems to like it. But at this point I don't really see a need to do so.

Still noisy at start up Kia filter or no though. Ah well, I can live with it.
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#3529953 - 11/04/14 06:37 PM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: sicko]
NormanBuntz Offline


Registered: 07/27/13
Posts: 623
Loc: Northeastern NC
Originally Posted By: sicko
You can also use the Kendall website to find a distributor near you. I have one near me where I can get the Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic with Liquid Titanium for $4 a quart. Only caveat is that you can't buy single quarts, it has to be by the case.

For those without a distributor near them, you can order the Kendall full synthetic from Petroleum Service Company for under $60 a case including shipping. Best price from them is when you buy two cases at a time.


Do you buy your Kendall at Pugh Lubricants?
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#3530212 - 11/05/14 02:27 AM Re: Kendall GT1 Synth Blend 5w20 / 6.8k mi / 2013 Kia [Re: Deamos]
Alltherage Offline


Registered: 06/28/14
Posts: 234
Loc: In the field
I have the same vehicle. Here's an important question...Can we discount any wear damage associated with the noisy cold starts based on UOA like this?

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