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#3441217 - 07/30/14 11:42 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: hatt]
Barkleymut Offline


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If you do decide to come South please pass straight through Virginia, I hear Mississippi is great!
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: theKman
Originally Posted By: loneryder
I love it. Drove by that factory for years and they made a lot of guns for the military there. Feel sorry for the people working there but hope they can move to Tn where they will be happier.


I'm just curious as to why they will be happier in Tennessee. Is it the:

Higher infant mortality rate (#4 vs #10)
Higher violent crime rate (#2 vs #9)
Higher Unemployment rate (#25 vs #36)
Lower Household Income (#43 vs #1)
Higher Persons below poverty level (#49 vs #11)
(All numbers from US Census Data/BLS)

Or maybe it's just the clean Smokey Mountain Air.
Greenest State (from Forbes, no less [2007]) (#43 vs #5)

Looks to me like those left behind by Beretta will do best by staying in Maryland.

I agree. Northeasterners should definitely stay clear of dumps like TN. It's terrible there. And FL too. Never come to FL. Just awful around here. You don't know and don't want to know how bad it is.
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#3441316 - 07/31/14 05:54 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: hatt]
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Originally Posted By: hatt
I agree. Northeasterners should definitely stay clear of dumps like TN. It's terrible there. And FL too. Never come to FL. Just awful around here. You don't know and don't want to know how bad it is.


Totally agreed. Fl is the WORST! Do not come here...
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#3444569 - 08/03/14 09:38 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: bcossa2001]
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The article from the OP is what Beretta says, but read this article and this is probably the real reason. TN has a rep of corporate welfare. What makes me angry is these foreign companies now have an unfair edge to the US companies. VW tax incentive.
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#3444599 - 08/03/14 10:14 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: Silverado12]
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Originally Posted By: Silverado12
The article from the OP is what Beretta says, but read this article and this is probably the real reason. TN has a rep of corporate welfare. What makes me angry is these foreign companies now have an unfair edge to the US companies. VW tax incentive.
Article is flawed. No mention of the overall economic impact of having the companies. And tax breaks aren't handouts. No company, no taxes at all coming in. No employees paying taxes, buying houses supporting businesses, etc.


Edited by hatt (08/03/14 10:16 AM)
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#3444726 - 08/03/14 01:16 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: hatt]
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Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
The article from the OP is what Beretta says, but read this article and this is probably the real reason. TN has a rep of corporate welfare. What makes me angry is these foreign companies now have an unfair edge to the US companies. VW tax incentive.
Article is flawed. No mention of the overall economic impact of having the companies. And tax breaks aren't handouts. No company, no taxes at all coming in. No employees paying taxes, buying houses supporting businesses, etc.


Makes me think the company would be better off not existing in the first place in the case of VW. Just takes away from the big 3 (or 2 depends on how you look at it). Lower paying jobs created and more money going overseas. But anyways, there are always other angles to look at things. BTW Beretta makes some nice guns.
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#3459425 - 08/19/14 10:39 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: spasm3]
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And.. why shouldn't they sell anything to LE in Maryland? ...
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#3459561 - 08/19/14 02:14 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: lawman1909]
hatt Offline


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Originally Posted By: lawman1909
And.. why shouldn't they sell anything to LE in Maryland? ...

Some companies have decided to not supply states that are extremely hostile to citizens' rights.
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#3459564 - 08/19/14 02:16 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: hatt]
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And that involves LE how?..
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#3459566 - 08/19/14 02:17 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: bcossa2001]
hatt Offline


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LE works for the government. Individual officers can still go down to the gun store and buy anything that's legal to sell to civilians in the state. They just don't supply agencies with "dangerous weapons of war that shouldn't be on the street." Common sense really.


Edited by hatt (08/19/14 02:23 PM)
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#3459603 - 08/19/14 03:30 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: hatt]
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Originally Posted By: hatt

They just don't supply agencies with "dangerous weapons of war that shouldn't be on the street."


Like firearms?
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#3459638 - 08/19/14 04:30 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: hatt]
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Not really common sense at all. Law enforcement is here to protect us, preserve the peace, and most importantly insure each and every officer makes it home at the end of the shift. So I would say police being armed with AR's, and other "tactical" weapons is fine, especially with the [censored] that pops up on the streets these days.
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#3459680 - 08/19/14 05:23 PM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: lawman1909]
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Originally Posted By: lawman1909
Not really common sense at all. Law enforcement is here to protect us, preserve the peace, and most importantly insure each and every officer makes it home at the end of the shift. So I would say police being armed with AR's, and other "tactical" weapons is fine, especially with the [censored] that pops up on the streets these days.
Why are you worried? Other places will sell the oppressive states the arms, so no big deal.
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#3460116 - 08/20/14 09:10 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: lawman1909]
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Originally Posted By: lawman1909
Not really common sense at all. Law enforcement is here to protect us, preserve the peace, and most importantly insure each and every officer makes it home at the end of the shift. So I would say police being armed with AR's, and other "tactical" weapons is fine, especially with the [censored] that pops up on the streets these days.


No, the role of law enforcement is not to protect us. Numerous court cases have affirmed that. Warren v. District and Castle Rock v. Gonzalez are two of the more commonly cited cases.

My safety is my responsibility.
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#3460146 - 08/20/14 10:09 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: strat81]
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Yes, it is the individual's responsibility, but LE is there to protect and serve. I.E. stopping crime, being a deterent, and investigating criminal acts.
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#3460202 - 08/20/14 11:15 AM Re: Beretta moves manufacturing to TN [Re: lawman1909]
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Registered: 01/09/10
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Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: lawman1909
Yes, it is the individual's responsibility, but LE is there to protect and serve. I.E. stopping crime, being a deterent, and investigating criminal acts.


LE has no duty to stop or deter crime. That is a settled legal issue in this country.
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