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#3441411 - 07/31/14 08:17 AM 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40
Spur Offline


Registered: 03/12/14
Posts: 39
Loc: TN
Looks pretty good to me. Gonna change every 2500 for shift quality and chage filter every 5000. Using Fram XG7317.


14 INDIAN CHIEFTAIN

REPORT DATE: 7/30/2014

MAKE/MODEL: FUEL TYPE:

Indian Motorcycle 111ci V-Twin
Gasoline (Unleaded)

OIL TYPE & GRADE: OIL USE INTERVAL:

Chevron Delo 400LE 15W/40
2,490 Miles

We haven't seen many of these 111ci engines before, but the results from the ones we have seen are averaged in the universal averages column, and the typical oil use interval is ~1,600 miles. Your run was a little longer, so it's nice to see metals reading low in this sample, as that's a great indication there aren't any serious problems in the works. No contamination turned up, and the low silicon and insolubles readings point to proper air and oil filtration. The TBN read 6.0, showing lots of active additive left since 1.0 is low. Try 4,500 miles on your next oil. Nice!

MI/HR on Oil 2,490
MI/HR on Unit 4,910
Sample Date 07/16/14
Make Up Oil Added 0 qts

UNIT/LOCATION AVERAGES UNIVERSAL AVERAGES

ALUMINUM 7 7 6
CHROMIUM 0 0 1
IRON 11 11 14
COPPER 5 5 38
LEAD 1 1 3
TIN 0 0 2
MOLYBDENUM 77 77 45
NICKEL 2 2 1
MANGANESE 0 0 0
SILVER 0 0 0
TITANIUM 0 0 0
POTASSIUM 4 4 1
BORON 397 397 108
SILICON 13 13 14
SODIUM 3 3 85
CALCIUM 1323 1323 1412
MAGNESIUM 476 476 358
PHOSPHORUS 995 995 883
ZINC 1197 1197 1092
BARIUM 0 0 0

Values
Should Be*

SUS Viscosity @ 210░F 71.4 68-78
cSt Viscosity @ 100░C 13.31 12.4-15.3
Flashpoint in ░F 450 >390
Fuel % <0.5 <2.0
Antifreeze % - 0.0
Water % 0.0 <0.1
Insolubles % 0.1 <0.6
TBN 6.0 >1.0
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#3441426 - 07/31/14 08:40 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
sunruh Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 1719
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
i can promise you this, with a flash of 450 you dont even have a thought of fuel in that oil. dang that impressive!

what no silver? they stoners must have recalibrated recently.

or swapped it for nickel

silicon could be high for a streetbike, but this oil was in for half the motor life so it could be spiked with sealer leech.

copper of 5 is very low compared to ua, but still its just the motor. gotta be a tri-metal bearings or brass thrust bearing/sleeve in there. as could be the lead 1.
but this motor is still new when the fill was put in.

ride it till one of you die.
dont know if you can get a better report.

steve


Edited by sunruh (07/31/14 08:41 AM)
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#3441435 - 07/31/14 08:47 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
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Registered: 10/24/11
Posts: 4450
Loc: Ohio
Delo can take a beating but for the price I would stick to a 3000 OCI.
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#3441507 - 07/31/14 09:59 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: sunruh]
Spur Offline


Registered: 03/12/14
Posts: 39
Loc: TN
Thanks Sunruh. I value your knowledge and opinion. I just wanted to make sure that this bike was like my other shared sump bikes. SRT, Delvac, Delo and other HDEO's still seem to work great.

I have always broke my bikes in using Motomans method. They have always run strong with great ring seal. I think this helps with fuel and contaminants getting in the oil.

Love the New Indians, so much better than a HD and I have owned a few of them since 1974. It is one of the best bikes I have owned so far. Handles great and has plenty of get up and go. I am old so I like the old school look.

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#3441561 - 07/31/14 10:49 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
sunruh Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 1719
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
oh this is a shared sump?

very very very nice uoa then!!!!

typically the copper would be then from a brass bushing on the clutch

yes i know the motomans method quit well.

steve
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#3441606 - 07/31/14 11:39 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: sunruh]
Spur Offline


Registered: 03/12/14
Posts: 39
Loc: TN
Yes, the new Indians are shared sump bikes

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#3444030 - 08/02/14 05:41 PM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
Posts: 1899
Loc: Midwest
Awesome report, Spur. And nice motorcycle. I've been admiring the Chieftain and the new two tone paint for '15 makes them even more appealing. If there was an Indian dealer closer than 3 hours to me I'd go take a demo ride.
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#3447829 - 08/06/14 12:00 PM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: LoneRanger]
Spur Offline


Registered: 03/12/14
Posts: 39
Loc: TN
Thanks LR

If you go and ride one you will buy it. One of the best bikes I have owned so far. Really loving the ride and handling. All the pretty women that come up and admire it isn't bad either

It is good to be different, everybody has a Harley.

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#3449933 - 08/08/14 03:40 PM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
tc1446 Offline


Registered: 12/10/10
Posts: 583
Loc: Lexington, NC
Does the amount of Moly in diesel oils have any bearing on wet clutches?

What additives are supposedly detrimental to a wet clutch?
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#3450185 - 08/08/14 08:55 PM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: tc1446]
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Registered: 12/03/04
Posts: 867
Loc: Florida /Texas
Generally until you get into the 500 to 600 ppm range with moly, it then gets borderline, but anything with 200 ppm or less is a non issue.

Most mc oil have a 100 ppm or less of moly.

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#3450647 - 08/09/14 02:42 PM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
tc1446 Offline


Registered: 12/10/10
Posts: 583
Loc: Lexington, NC
Thanks Mackelroy, I'm running Rotella T right now in the Can Am, but may want to give the Delo a try inasmuch as I've been using it for several years not in my Kioti diesel tractor. Still waiting till I get to
3K on the Rot T to do a test, maybe by next month.


Edited by tc1446 (08/09/14 02:42 PM)
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#3493971 - 09/26/14 09:00 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Mackelroy]
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Registered: 09/14/13
Posts: 154
Loc: indiana
Originally Posted By: Mackelroy
Generally until you get into the 500 to 600 ppm range with moly, it then gets borderline, but anything with 200 ppm or less is a non issue.

Most mc oil have a 100 ppm or less of moly.

So the used oil anaylisis says 77 parts Molybdenum right? So that oil would be quite alright in a wet clutch bike?

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#3494042 - 09/26/14 09:55 AM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
sunruh Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 1719
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
yes and yes
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#3496093 - 09/28/14 04:59 PM Re: 14 Indian Chieftain Chevron Delo 400LE 15-40 [Re: Spur]
Jimkobb Offline


Registered: 09/14/13
Posts: 154
Loc: indiana
Just changed my oil in my 2013 Road Star to the Delo 400 . I will run this with what`s left of riding season here in Indiana and maybe into a month into next years season when the bike comes back out. Then I might try a 20w - 50 over the summer.

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