While the conspiracy theory stuff I can buy as a troll, I'm sure Trav didn't mind getting in some free Obama pokes and actually believed in those. That's only a half-troll.
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
If the subject of (real) war and the associated atrocities is just fun and laughing matter for you, what can I say?
Over and out.
Pretty sure the fun was had on the back of the foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy guy(s), not the war and atrocities.
Not sure if that makes it any better, but... FWIW.
Fact is that Russia is NO worse than the US when it comes to
its endless meddling in the affairs of other nations...
The difference is the fact that the US claims the moral high ground , or at least they try and communicate that to the rest of the world, although I think that time has long since come and gone.
The rest of the world sees my country for what it is now...just another corrupt empire looking to increase its assets around the globe, at the expense of others. Russia never claimed that moral high ground.
It makes the USA look like the ultimate hypocrite it has now become. That is a horrible burden to carry, and it makes
blow back all the more likely and frankly understandable.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
If the subject of (real) war and the associated atrocities is just fun and laughing matter for you, what can I say?
Over and out.
Pretty sure the fun was had on the back of the foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy guy(s), not the war and atrocities.
Not sure if that makes it any better, but... FWIW.
Poking the FATMCGs is always fun. Facts/logic/critical thinking acts on them like crosses on a vampire.
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Are you going to provide an answer to my questions? Youtube videos are not correct answers, letting you know just to be fair.
I don't have to provide you with anything.
Maybe if you say "pretty please with sugar on top" or something I
MIGHT be more inclined, or not.
Last time I checked you are just a random member of an internet forum, just like I am.
I wonder what happened to that spanish air traffic controller that stated he and other employees were removed from the tower at Kiev just after MH17 was downed. This employee says that it was the Ukrainian military that shot it down.
And seriously why is that Eye of Horus on the
500 denomination of the lastest Ukrainian currency?
This is the actual Ukrainian 500 bill, not a fake.
The fact that it IS there is in the least odd, strange, and bizarre.
I am not pro/anti Russian, pro/anti Putin or pro/anti American.
I am against the current US regime and its leader that is using any crisis it can gin up or get behind to divert from crimes committed against its own people.
That in no way makes me anti American.
...
What specific actions of this regime do you object to as many here object to them not doing enough or much at all? It seems rather slavish of Western Europeans to barely raise a serious hackle as an airliner was (accidentally) shot down by f-wits because they're so dependent on the energy of Mother Russia and it's fairly well documented despotic "regime". Especially Western Europeans could become fairly independent within a matter a years by developing gas fields in The Netherlands (ironically) and Denmark..
I've read that Putin is merely destabilizing the Ukraine and in fact Putin may not even want anymore territory. There has been no lawful democratic process and most studies showed that the majority favored staying in the Ukraine (in some form with political changes albeit) by about 70% to 30%. It seems the Russians decided to help arm the 30%...
Originally Posted By: Trav
Look Guys. Now i see this guy actually is looking for Russian posters posting and all sorts of crazy stuff i guess i will come clean.
This was nothing more than Devils advocate, pro-conta for me. I played it for entertainment purposes only
I usually don't get into topics like this either because i don't care of i don't know enough about it.
I told some friends by PM not to get into this because its just a laugh. We have been rolling with every page.
I wish i could day i'm sorry but it has been too a good laugh.
Some really good stuff was ginned up that never appeared in the thread like "my wall of greatness" but it may have driven some folks totally bonkers. It would have been great though, i sort of regret not using it.
I was in the middle of ginning up some new twist and turns but its gone too far.
I cant have friendly and a few other going to bed muttering that bastar.
trav is reporting back to vlad as he post.
Seriously though this is what happens when politics are discussed and some sod looking for some cheap entertainment because nothing is on TV gets involved.
"While the West temporizes, a de facto Russian army is rapidly assembling in occupied portions of eastern Ukraine. A report in the Financial Times, sourced to U.S. intelligence officials, says it includes dozens of T-64 battle tanks, Grad rocket launchers, self-propelled guns, infantry combat vehicles with automatic cannons and armored personnel carriers, in addition to anti-aircraft systems like the one that shot down the Malaysian plane. This force is commanded by Russian citizens who infiltrated Ukraine from Moscow, including a Russian secret police colonel, and made up in large part of fighters from Russia."
"Rebel" units commanded by Russian Intelligence Officers. I foresee the end of this "war" in the very near future. The European Union and the United States should either take action to stop Russian aggression or just completely ignore Russia and allow Putin to expand his empire until Putin decides to stop.
The talk, wait, "economic sanctions" do not deter any military advancement because effective "economic sanctions" are just as effective against the European Union and the U.S. thus no sanctions with teeth will be implemented.