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#3429983 - 07/20/14 09:13 AM Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
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Loc: Charlotte, NC
2013 Dodge GC bought 6/6/13. Now has 36089 miles on it. Just got back from our vacation trip, ~1900 miles round trip. On the way north I had to do a hard stop and the front brakes rumbled and shuttered like nothing I've never experienced before. Before you ask, it wasn't the ABS. I know what that feels like. This issue started about 6 months ago with just an occasional little vibration in the left front wheel. It has developed into a serious issue on the LF and somewhat less on the RF. Before the trip I pulled the LF wheel, gave it a careful inspection. Every thing looked very good. Lots of pad, rotors are clean, the rotors are blued, so will be replaced with the 1st. brake job. This is my wife's DD so gets no chance to get rusty. I took it to the local dealer in Cadillac, MI to have a look, found nothing. Said it looks normal, would need brakes in about 20k.

I've seen some odd stuff with cars, but nothing like this. Thoughts anyone?

Wayne
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#3429996 - 07/20/14 09:28 AM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
Miller88 Offline


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Could it be from not using the brakes enough?

My parents are going to be doing rear rotors on their 2013 Escape every two years it seems. Big brakes all around ... and my mother has one stop on the way to and from work. Doesn't use them enough to heat them up. Even the fronts are starting to rust/pit from not being used enough to clean them off.
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#3430000 - 07/20/14 09:33 AM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
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Posts: 1987
Loc: Midwest, Illinois
My spouses 2012 T&C has done the same thing. Factory rotors and pads replaced at 40 with severe pulsing and vibration. New NAPA premium rotors and Adaptive 1 pads installed. Now at 55k the same thing. No evidence in either case of overheating or warpage, and currently the pads look practically new. I will say the Adaptive pads wear well. YMMV, but in my experience, you can be guaranteed 2 things with any Chrysler: crummy transmissions and brakes, so they got you covered going and stopping. Just had the vehicle in the shop for a week. Intermittant CEL, intermittent traction control lamp, false alerts from the proximity system with lights mainly in the RH mirror. After 4 days, the tech replaced the turnsignal stalk/module, saying it was dragging down the 5v signal that goes to multiple systems in the car.


Edited by beanoil (07/20/14 09:35 AM)
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#3430037 - 07/20/14 10:14 AM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
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Registered: 12/08/06
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Wayne - 16 inch or 17 inch wheels on the GC?
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#3430053 - 07/20/14 10:24 AM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
Rand Offline


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Pad deposits on the rotors? rust? Is there a big lip on the edge?


Edited by Rand (07/20/14 10:25 AM)
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#3430084 - 07/20/14 10:58 AM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
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Proportioning valve? Bad hose? Caliper not sliding?

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#3430088 - 07/20/14 11:04 AM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
andyd Offline


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I also suspect pad deposits. Not familiar with GC steering. Are there control arm bushings?
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#3430161 - 07/20/14 12:28 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
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pad deposits. go slam them on again
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#3430212 - 07/20/14 01:05 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: mrsilv04]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
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Loc: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Wayne - 16 inch or 17 inch wheels on the GC?


16"
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#3430214 - 07/20/14 01:06 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Rand]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
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Originally Posted By: Rand
Pad deposits on the rotors? rust? Is there a big lip on the edge?


Nope. Already checked.. No issues with the rears.
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#3430222 - 07/20/14 01:13 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Chris142]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
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Loc: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted By: Chris142
pad deposits. go slam them on again
Possible I suppose.

I slammed them 3 times, once going up and twice on the return trip. (Almost got ate by a semi changing lanes). The dealer suggested that the rotors had developed hard spots and should be changed. Looks like I'll be doing a 4 wheel brake job sooner then I expected. Fooo...

Wayne
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#3430304 - 07/20/14 03:05 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
mcrn Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 2606
Loc: FL
Wasn't there a TSB or a recall on GC brakes? I could be completely wrong....it just seems like someone I work with had to take theirs in.

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#3430430 - 07/20/14 05:43 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: mcrn]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
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Loc: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted By: mcrn
Wasn't there a TSB or a recall on GC brakes? I could be completely wrong....it just seems like someone I work with had to take theirs in.
Where would I look for info?

Wayne
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#3430487 - 07/20/14 06:44 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
gathermewool Offline


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If the rotors are OEM and much greater than min thickness, and the pads are good, then why not turn the rotors?

Wouldn't this prove whether it's pad deposits or warped rotors?
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#3430747 - 07/20/14 10:19 PM Re: Rumbling front brakes 2013 GC [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Wayne - 16 inch or 17 inch wheels on the GC?


16"


Unfortunately, those are the old design brakes... which have been a problem for years in the Dodge/Chrysler minivans.

Just bite the bullet and do a brake job with new pads and rotors, and move on.
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