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#3425794 - 07/15/14 06:33 PM Duke engine......better design?
mcrn Offline


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http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-the-we...dium=socialflow

I searched and could not see that this had been previously posted.

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#3425852 - 07/15/14 07:22 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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That first image is seriously cool to look at.


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#3425867 - 07/15/14 07:36 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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Awesome! I would love to see this engine in production.
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#3425910 - 07/15/14 08:14 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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Wow, looks pretty cool. Not sure how reliable things would be though. Looks like it could have sealing issues.
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#3425914 - 07/15/14 08:18 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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mechanical complexity, coupled with sealing problems (just like wenkel engines), will plague this design in production mode.

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#3425916 - 07/15/14 08:24 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: gregk24]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
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Originally Posted By: gregk24
Wow, looks pretty cool. Not sure how reliable things would be though. Looks like it could have sealing issues.


That's what I thought. After many years of use, things are gonna start losing their pressure, metal will fatigue and the whole engine will need replaced. Interesting concept though.
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#3425949 - 07/15/14 08:46 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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Looks like a wobble plate type of air conditioning compressor.

With spark plugs.
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#3425950 - 07/15/14 08:47 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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very similar to many a\c compressors
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#3425952 - 07/15/14 08:50 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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that's a technological terror if I've ever seen one
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#3425979 - 07/15/14 09:11 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: Chris142]
scurvy Offline


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Originally Posted By: Win
Looks like a wobble plate type of air conditioning compressor.

Originally Posted By: Chris142
very similar to many a\c compressors


Quite right. Same design as many existing AC compressors, which work beautifully. No reason it couldn't be adapted to work with spark or compression ignition.
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#3426249 - 07/16/14 07:38 AM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: Win]
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Originally Posted By: Win
Looks like a wobble plate type of air conditioning compressor.

With spark plugs.

Just did a Sanden and it looked just like this 7cyl.
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#3426363 - 07/16/14 10:32 AM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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just count the weight of the moving parts. that will tell you all you need to know.

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#3427006 - 07/16/14 09:39 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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Registered: 10/13/10
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Loc: New York Queens
Wonder what weight oil that motor takes

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#3427035 - 07/16/14 10:24 PM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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Registered: 10/24/08
Posts: 808
Loc: New Zealand
I should be patriotic but I think it's a nightmare too. Oddly the animated GIF shows the block stationary while the video shows it rotating, as it needs to, to move pistons past the ports and spark plugs. Perhaps the crank turns at twice head speed for a 4-stroke cycle.
Sealing the head under combustion pressure along with the complex machining of the wobble plate and con rods make it unattractive to me. And the touted advantages of balance and part count answer questions nobody has actually asked.

Compressors use this type of idea (wobble plate with a large number of small cylinders) to avoid pressure pulses in the input/output, hardly an issue in an IC engine where small cylinders have the disadvantage of high heat loss.

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#3427134 - 07/17/14 04:09 AM Re: Duke engine......better design? [Re: mcrn]
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Registered: 10/08/07
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Back in the '50s this was tried .... it was called a Swash Plate design . Fine for clean conditions like AC compressors but otherwise it was a dud .

Just because it can be done doesn't mean it's worth doing .


Edited by bruno (07/17/14 04:11 AM)

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