Recent Topics
Fear Getting Towed? You’ll Hate Watching This
by Falcon_LS
Today at 04:49 PM
Replacing parts before they fail
by Falcon_LS
Today at 04:17 PM
First Impressions: Cooper Discoverer H/T
by Falcon_LS
Today at 03:31 PM
Torn between tool brands
by renegade_987
Today at 12:34 PM
the beggars are really out in force today.
by Chris142
Today at 11:56 AM
New F150 specs
by hattaresguy
Today at 11:47 AM
WTB: 99 Miata roll bar
by Klutch9
Today at 10:56 AM
PP 5W30 Vs Total Quartz Ineo MC3 5W30
by Thugzy
Today at 10:11 AM
Let's talk about stolen cars
by MalfunctionProne
Today at 09:42 AM
Very Tempted but Sailun Tires
by rjundi
Today at 09:38 AM
Spicing up my chili
by racer12306
Today at 09:13 AM
AAP $50 off $100+ first 2000 customers.
by sayjac
Today at 09:05 AM
Newest Members
EdBurns, wolf9832, marine65, Focality, zimmersci
52011 Registered Users
Who's Online
84 registered (aa1986, 97f150, Alltherage, 05LGTLtd, 01_celica_gt, 77GrandPrix, 9 invisible), 1180 Guests and 177 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
52011 Members
66 Forums
222684 Topics
3525436 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#3424446 - 07/14/14 02:16 PM K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart
GumbyJarvis Offline


Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 1363
Loc: Fort Hood, TX
Fun day in Texas.
Other than Fort Hood having no water, this is what I accomplished today



Before




After


Took <60 Minutes
Little noise increase, will update on MPGs in a few weeks
_________________________
2013 Dodge Dart SXT 2.0L. 17,490MI
PP 0w20 + TOUGH GUARD

22 Year Old that uses Brut, Brylcreem, and a safety razor..
just like your grandpa did!

Top
#3424449 - 07/14/14 02:17 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
GumbyJarvis Offline


Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 1363
Loc: Fort Hood, TX
excuse the dust btw, it will be cleaned soon enough.

Oh and I bought this off Autozone, Fireworks coupon went from 240 to 190$
_________________________
2013 Dodge Dart SXT 2.0L. 17,490MI
PP 0w20 + TOUGH GUARD

22 Year Old that uses Brut, Brylcreem, and a safety razor..
just like your grandpa did!

Top
#3424456 - 07/14/14 02:21 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 11637
Loc: North Carolina
The install looks pretty easy. I'd be interested in knowing the Intake Air Temperature (standard OBD-II data point) with the cone installed vs. without, if you have a scanner. It would also have required you to track that before installation, though, so...probably not, huh? smile

Enjoy your Dart.
_________________________
Cheers,
Jason

2008 Honda CR-V EX-L (Peak 0W-20)
2005 Acura MDX Touring (FMC 5W-20)

Top
#3424463 - 07/14/14 02:24 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
surfstar Offline


Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 4409
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
I'm still amazed that BITOGers will actually install a K&N and then even more amazed that they will admit it!

You will never see a MPG increase to recover that $190. Maybe if you wash the filter (which makes it filter worse again vs dirty) you will slowly recover that expense vs buying paper filters over hundreds of thousands of miles.

Also looks more likely to bring in warm/hot underhood air vs the OEM intake.

$190 for a noisemaker

laugh
_________________________
2000 Civic HX 1.6L MTX ~42mpg
2005 Saturn Vue 2.2L MTX ~27mpg
--My 'new' car will be an early retirement--

Top
#3424467 - 07/14/14 02:26 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 20824
Loc: Colorado Springs
It has a heat shield to isolate the filter from the engine, but the 200+ degree coolant overflow reservoir is within 2 inches of the filter. That can't be good for air intake temps!

Top
#3424473 - 07/14/14 02:30 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
GumbyJarvis Offline


Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 1363
Loc: Fort Hood, TX
190$ for a name brand noise maker, Durrrr wink
_________________________
2013 Dodge Dart SXT 2.0L. 17,490MI
PP 0w20 + TOUGH GUARD

22 Year Old that uses Brut, Brylcreem, and a safety razor..
just like your grandpa did!

Top
#3424480 - 07/14/14 02:37 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
satinsilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 2915
Loc: Ohio
I like the "before" pic better. smile

ps...there won't be any fuel savings.

Top
#3424492 - 07/14/14 02:47 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 1434
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Oh yes I would just love for more dirt to be sucked into my engine, just so it looks cool, can gain 40 more horsepower, can gain 20 extra mpg, empty my wallet more, and suck in hotter air
_________________________
2004 VW Beetle TDI 163k
(Yeah it's a chick car but it gets me 40 mpg)

Top
#3424502 - 07/14/14 02:58 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 1600
Loc: California
What happened to the hose that went from the air filter housing around the dip stick?

If you oil the filter media does the oil contaminate the air flow sensor down stream?

Is this care driven on the street or mainly an off road car?
_________________________
84 Honda Civic wagon 5-speed, original owner 425K+ 0w-30
03 Toyota 4Runner V8 2WD, 135K+ 0w-30

Top
#3424557 - 07/14/14 03:55 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: OneEyeJack]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 6402
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack


If you oil the filter media does the oil contaminate the air flow sensor down stream?


No MAF sensor, its a speed-density system with a MAP sensor as are all Chrysler engines. So at least that's one way that a K&N can't hurt it...

But the inside of the intake manifold will get nasty from all the dirt that gets through the filter... it should be plenty obvious from the rest of the engine bay that while it may not be Tuscon, there still is enough dust in CenTex to warrant good air filtration.

In case you haven't guessed, I'm not a big fan of CAI kits and K&N air filters for street-driven cars. I used a K&N drop-in years ago, and while the engine lived to a ripe old age, the inside of the intake when I had it apart at one time convinced me to go back to a paper filter.
_________________________
'66 Dodge Polara & '69 Dodge Coronet R/T both 440/727
'08 Ram 1500 4.7/545RFE
'12 Challenger SRT8 392/6-speed
'99 Cherokee 4.0, '11 Grand Cherokee 3.6

Top
#3424603 - 07/14/14 04:47 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: OneEyeJack]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 12570
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
What happened to the hose that went from the air filter housing around the dip stick?

If you oil the filter media does the oil contaminate the air flow sensor down stream?

Is this care driven on the street or mainly an off road car?



Virtually impossible to damage the sensor unless you install the filter when it is literally dripping wet with oil. Even then, the sensor can be cleaned easily.
_________________________
2011.5 BMW M3 saloon ZCP
der stärkste buchstabe der welt
Castrol Edge Professional TWS 10w60 + Mahle OX 254D3

Top
#3424616 - 07/14/14 04:58 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
OtisBlkR1 Offline


Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 2853
Loc: Indiana
looks cool dude, however in all honesty the others are telling you the truth.. you paid $190 for a noise maker.

I to was a believer.. however have since pulled all mine..


Edited by OtisBlkR1 (07/14/14 05:07 PM)
_________________________
06 silverado 79,xxx Mobil 5-30
07 Accord 99,000 Mobil 5-20
06 Milan 38,000 PP 5-20
05 YZF R1 26,XXX RT6
09 Polaris Ranger RT6

Top
#3424689 - 07/14/14 06:10 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 3885
Loc: KC
be sure to replace the k&n filter with an actual, working filter and you are good to go.

and I'm surprised how many people don't know that increasing intake temperatures increases MPGs, especially on lean burn engines like modern DI engines.


Edited by badtlc (07/14/14 06:12 PM)
_________________________
2007 Ford Escape XLS 2.3L ATX Kendall 5w-20, MC Fl910s, 115k+
2012 Mazda 3i Skyactiv M1 AFE 0W20, 6spd MTX Redline MTL, 40k+

Top
#3424705 - 07/14/14 06:21 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
hattaresguy Offline


Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 5247
Loc: CT
Meh I'd put it back to stock and spend the $190 on something else.

For a cheap few HP I'm sure their are chips available for that car.


Edited by hattaresguy (07/14/14 06:22 PM)

Top
#3424869 - 07/14/14 08:07 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Ram01 Offline


Registered: 10/13/10
Posts: 640
Loc: New York Queens
Should of got the 2.4 tiger shark I understand needing the extra hp in the 2.0 I'm not mad at you

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >