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#3424446 - 07/14/14 02:16 PM K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart
GumbyJarvis Offline


Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 1383
Loc: Fort Hood, TX
Fun day in Texas.
Other than Fort Hood having no water, this is what I accomplished today



Before




After


Took <60 Minutes
Little noise increase, will update on MPGs in a few weeks
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#3424449 - 07/14/14 02:17 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
GumbyJarvis Offline


Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 1383
Loc: Fort Hood, TX
excuse the dust btw, it will be cleaned soon enough.

Oh and I bought this off Autozone, Fireworks coupon went from 240 to 190$
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#3424456 - 07/14/14 02:21 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 13081
Loc: North Carolina
The install looks pretty easy. I'd be interested in knowing the Intake Air Temperature (standard OBD-II data point) with the cone installed vs. without, if you have a scanner. It would also have required you to track that before installation, though, so...probably not, huh? smile

Enjoy your Dart.
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#3424463 - 07/14/14 02:24 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
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Registered: 09/16/04
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Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
I'm still amazed that BITOGers will actually install a K&N and then even more amazed that they will admit it!

You will never see a MPG increase to recover that $190. Maybe if you wash the filter (which makes it filter worse again vs dirty) you will slowly recover that expense vs buying paper filters over hundreds of thousands of miles.

Also looks more likely to bring in warm/hot underhood air vs the OEM intake.

$190 for a noisemaker

laugh
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#3424467 - 07/14/14 02:26 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 21215
Loc: Colorado Springs
It has a heat shield to isolate the filter from the engine, but the 200+ degree coolant overflow reservoir is within 2 inches of the filter. That can't be good for air intake temps!

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#3424473 - 07/14/14 02:30 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
GumbyJarvis Offline


Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 1383
Loc: Fort Hood, TX
190$ for a name brand noise maker, Durrrr wink
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#3424480 - 07/14/14 02:37 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
satinsilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 3263
Loc: Ohio
I like the "before" pic better. smile

ps...there won't be any fuel savings.

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#3424492 - 07/14/14 02:47 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 3533
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Oh yes I would just love for more dirt to be sucked into my engine, just so it looks cool, can gain 40 more horsepower, can gain 20 extra mpg, empty my wallet more, and suck in hotter air
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#3424502 - 07/14/14 02:58 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 3684
Loc: S California
What happened to the hose that went from the air filter housing around the dip stick?

If you oil the filter media does the oil contaminate the air flow sensor down stream?

Is this care driven on the street or mainly an off road car?
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#3424557 - 07/14/14 03:55 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: OneEyeJack]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 7187
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack


If you oil the filter media does the oil contaminate the air flow sensor down stream?


No MAF sensor, its a speed-density system with a MAP sensor as are all Chrysler engines. So at least that's one way that a K&N can't hurt it...

But the inside of the intake manifold will get nasty from all the dirt that gets through the filter... it should be plenty obvious from the rest of the engine bay that while it may not be Tuscon, there still is enough dust in CenTex to warrant good air filtration.

In case you haven't guessed, I'm not a big fan of CAI kits and K&N air filters for street-driven cars. I used a K&N drop-in years ago, and while the engine lived to a ripe old age, the inside of the intake when I had it apart at one time convinced me to go back to a paper filter.
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#3424603 - 07/14/14 04:47 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: OneEyeJack]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 12614
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
What happened to the hose that went from the air filter housing around the dip stick?

If you oil the filter media does the oil contaminate the air flow sensor down stream?

Is this care driven on the street or mainly an off road car?



Virtually impossible to damage the sensor unless you install the filter when it is literally dripping wet with oil. Even then, the sensor can be cleaned easily.
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#3424616 - 07/14/14 04:58 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
OtisBlkR1 Offline


Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 3168
Loc: Indiana
looks cool dude, however in all honesty the others are telling you the truth.. you paid $190 for a noise maker.

I to was a believer.. however have since pulled all mine..


Edited by OtisBlkR1 (07/14/14 05:07 PM)
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#3424689 - 07/14/14 06:10 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 4570
Loc: KC
be sure to replace the k&n filter with an actual, working filter and you are good to go.

and I'm surprised how many people don't know that increasing intake temperatures increases MPGs, especially on lean burn engines like modern DI engines.


Edited by badtlc (07/14/14 06:12 PM)
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#3424705 - 07/14/14 06:21 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
hattaresguy Offline


Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 6460
Loc: CT
Meh I'd put it back to stock and spend the $190 on something else.

For a cheap few HP I'm sure their are chips available for that car.


Edited by hattaresguy (07/14/14 06:22 PM)

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#3424869 - 07/14/14 08:07 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
Ram01 Offline


Registered: 10/13/10
Posts: 792
Loc: New York Queens
Should of got the 2.4 tiger shark I understand needing the extra hp in the 2.0 I'm not mad at you

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