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#3429087 - 07/19/14 07:46 AM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: eddy21]
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Originally Posted By: eddy21
Here's one for the horsepower argument.

http://forums.focaljet.com/ti-vct-tuning...phs-inside.html


yep, those were excellent results, that particular platform must have a heavily silenced intake tract.

But it just proves my point that some cars benefit and some don't at all...
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#3432919 - 07/23/14 01:10 AM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
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#3433132 - 07/23/14 09:42 AM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack


No one in this topic has stated that an aftermarket filter/intake will increase horsepower on every car. It depends on the individual vehicle and the design priorities of the OEM intake and filter.
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#3433176 - 07/23/14 10:33 AM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: MCompact]
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I must have misread the marketing material on several of these types of filters. They claimed a performance increase. It appears that these filters setups are for looks and noise. They also have an application where one puts say a turbo on an engine ans is running out of room. For a daily driver I don't get it.

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#3433809 - 07/23/14 08:47 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
I must have misread the marketing material on several of these types of filters. They claimed a performance increase. It appears that these filters setups are for looks and noise. They also have an application where one puts say a turbo on an engine ans is running out of room. For a daily driver I don't get it.


Agreed; I paid $315 for my Mazdaspeed cold air intake and I only picked up 24 bhp and shaved just 0.61 seconds of my 3rd gear 30mph-70mph acceleration time.

What a rip-off... shrug
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#3434247 - 07/24/14 10:30 AM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
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Again, minus the filter, which is a seperate issue. Every car responds differently to a CAI or removal or the stock air box. The only way to prove it is put the car on the Dyno.
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#3434537 - 07/24/14 04:35 PM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: ls1mike]
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Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Again, minus the filter, which is a seperate issue. Every car responds differently to a CAI or removal or the stock air box. The only way to prove it is put the car on the Dyno.


Agreed; I was responding to those who simply parrot second-hand opinions- i.e., "CAIs never increase horsepower." or "Install a CAI and you'll always pick up 40-50 bhp."
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#3435156 - 07/25/14 10:02 AM Re: K&N Cool Air intake, '13 2.0L Dart [Re: GumbyJarvis]
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Heck, I'd spend a couple hundred just for the noise. Intake noise from a nice inline engine is a wonderful thing.

I'd change out the intake on the GTI, but as it turns out they generally don't make a huge difference. I'm guessing the turbo muffles things a bit.
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