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#3424282 - 07/14/14 11:09 AM Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models
SwedishRider Offline


Registered: 10/13/13
Posts: 356
Loc: not Sweden
I'm hoping to poll the wisdom of the forum as I start searching to potentially upgrade a vehicle. I'm looking at new 2014/2015 vehicles that carry 7/8 passengers and have decent cargo space. I've been browsing in the $28K-$36K range, and have come to focus on the following:

2014 Dodge Durango
2014 Ford Explorer
2014 Honda Pilot
2014 Honda Odyssey

I have sat in the Pilot and Odyssey (the Odyssey I tried sat 8, EX model I think), and I really liked the roominess and features of that vehicle. In fact I was starting to lean in that direction... But I'm disappointed to hear of some pretty serious problems with that model, including a class action against Honda posted in this thread: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3422790/Honda_Odyssey_Touring

So I'm looking for any suggestions or advice as I shop. I tend to buy vehicles with the intent of keeping them for the life of the vehicle (I won't lease or flip trade) and I try to maintain them meticulously for long vehicle life. I'm looking for a reliable 7/8 passenger vehicle that will give many years of good, trouble-free service. Should I be looking at other models that offer 7/8 passengers and great cargo space? Is Honda really reliable or not? I had always thought their vehicles had legendary reliability until now.

Any pertinent advice or suggestions are welcome. Thanks! smile

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#3424288 - 07/14/14 11:16 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
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I think the Sienna is a very attractive package of roominess/comfort, performance, and reliability. Avoid the AWD version unless you really need it.
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#3424290 - 07/14/14 11:18 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
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The Odyssey is getting a lot of praise from the auto journalists. You should seriously consider it.

Honda is still selling reliable vehicles, but others have caught up and possibly surpassed them.
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#3424291 - 07/14/14 11:18 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: theKman]
SwedishRider Offline


Registered: 10/13/13
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Originally Posted By: theKman
I think the Sienna is a very attractive package of roominess/comfort, performance, and reliability. Avoid the AWD version unless you really need it.


Thanks for the suggestion! I don't need AWD nor 4WD, but I wouldn't be against having them per se. Do they tend to decrease reliability?!?

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#3424293 - 07/14/14 11:19 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
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Check into lifespan (and repairs) on the electric doors on minivans. Seems like every electric door I know of has had to have repairs. I know families tend to like the doors but we taught our kids to not swing the doors wide open; and we live in the sticks anyhow.

Third seats tend to be hard to get to, unless if a minivan. Usually one loses cargo space if using the last row too. Unless if I needed towing and/or ground clearance, I'd go minivan first if I thought I was going to move that many people on a regular basis.

If it was me I'd probably go GC, as much of a snob as I am, I'm not sure they are worth it, not when you can buy a GC for less, run it into the ground and repeat. And have cheaper parts in the process. I'm not convinced that the GC is that much worse than the other models; and everyone now raves about how good Dodge has gotten to be, so I'd be willing to take a gamble.
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#3424297 - 07/14/14 11:21 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
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The new Mitsubishi Outlander V6 - and it passes the small overlap crash test - the same test in which the Honda Pilot crumpled-up like a piece of tin foil. It MAY be too small for your needs if the back two passengers are not children. Other wise - Chrysler Towne and Country - or similar.

The hideous Houndawg Oddity looks like a Funeral Flower Carrier or Hearse - especially in Black
But, what do I know, I only carry just me in a ugly, tiny tin can to work and back ... smile


Edited by ARCOgraphite (07/14/14 11:25 AM)
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#3424298 - 07/14/14 11:21 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: dparm]
SwedishRider Offline


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Originally Posted By: dparm
The Odyssey is getting a lot of praise from the auto journalists. You should seriously consider it.

Honda is still selling reliable vehicles, but others have caught up and possibly surpassed them.


I really liked the Odyssey until I read that thread. Is that issue in the linked BITOG thread legit or is that an isolated issue?

You are correct that just about every review has praised the Odyssey, which perplexes me as if there are serious reliability issues.. wouldn't they be getting really dinged in the media/

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#3424302 - 07/14/14 11:26 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
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Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: SwedishRider
Originally Posted By: dparm
The Odyssey is getting a lot of praise from the auto journalists. You should seriously consider it.

Honda is still selling reliable vehicles, but others have caught up and possibly surpassed them.


I really liked the Odyssey until I read that thread. Is that issue in the linked BITOG thread legit or is that an isolated issue?

You are correct that just about every review has praised the Odyssey, which perplexes me as if there are serious reliability issues.. wouldn't they be getting really dinged in the media/



That was for a 2005, which was a much older model. I don't think it's really that relevant to your decision on a 2014.

The journalists are just looking at the car after driving it for a week. They are not really speaking to its long-term reliability. You have to look at the other articles for that (long term test report or whatever they call it).
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#3424304 - 07/14/14 11:26 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: ARCOgraphite]
dparm Offline


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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
The new Mitsubishi Outlander V6 - and it passes the small overlap crash test - the same test in which the Honda Pilot crumpled-up like a piece of tin foil. It MAY be too small for your needs if the back two passengers are not children. Other wise - Chrysler Towne and Country - or similar.

The hideous Houndawg Oddity looks like a Funeral Flower Carrier or Hearse - especially in Black
But, what do I know, I only carry just me in a ugly, tiny tin can to work and back ... smile



The new Outlander looks even better in person. I have seen a handful of them driving around already.
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#3424306 - 07/14/14 11:28 AM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: ARCOgraphite]
SwedishRider Offline


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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
The new Mitsubishi Outlander V6 - and it passes the small overlap crash test - the same test in which the Honda Pilot crumpled-up like a piece of tin foil. It MAY be too small for your needs if the back two passengers are not children.


Sharp looking vehicle- I'll have to look into this! Thank you! smile

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#3424343 - 07/14/14 12:05 PM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
stockrex Offline


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the honda minivan had the worst 3rd row seat, even a child would hate it. it was super low and uncomfy.
I bought the toyota minivan instead.
on long trips event that would get tight. now I am looking at a full size van :-(
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#3424379 - 07/14/14 12:45 PM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
Miller88 Offline


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The Pilot is the nicest looking one of the group.

My choice would be the Durango or Exploder.
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#3424391 - 07/14/14 01:07 PM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
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what load rating do you need?

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#3424392 - 07/14/14 01:07 PM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
dtownfb Offline


Registered: 03/11/09
Posts: 38
Loc: PA
If you're looking for 7/8 passenger and storage, I would recommend either the Sienna or Odyssey. Easy access to 3rd row. Decent gas mileage. I own a 2013 Sienna and love it. Like another poster mentioned, avoid the AWD unless necessary.
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#3424398 - 07/14/14 01:12 PM Re: Contemplating 7/8 Passenger Vehicle Models [Re: SwedishRider]
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Loc: Houston TX
Had a rental Durango a couple years ago, plenty of room (I'm 6'4") plenty of power with the Pentastar, awd, and 23 mpg highway through the hilss of WV at 65-70 mph. Solid vehicle.
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