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#3422181 - 07/11/14 10:01 PM Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans??
Clubber_Lang Offline


Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 294
Loc: SC
I just don't get it. I think driving a standard transmission has so many advantages, including better/more engaging driving experience, (often) longer transmission life, ect. My trucks previous owner had a hard time selling his F150 because, according to him everyone that called about the truck was flabbergasted when they learned it wasnt an automatic.

Recently I helped a friend buy a truck. We found so many really solid deals that were manuals but he wouldnt even consider them. I tried to take time to teach him but after 5 mins he gave up and acted like it was as complicated as learning quantum physics. He is not a dumb guy by any means, but unfortunately it seems like he is the norm. I'm in my early 30s and I would estimate that 95% of people my age or younger either dont know how or are too lazy to drive a standard. I'd like to hear others take on why this has come to be. I think its a shame.
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#3422187 - 07/11/14 10:07 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
cashmoney Offline


Registered: 03/23/13
Posts: 172
Loc: TX
I'm in the auto trans only club. Not a fan of 1920's technology. Now a double clutch automated manual would be just fine for me.

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#3422188 - 07/11/14 10:08 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 25920
Loc: Michigan
Most people don't equate driving with enjoyment, period, and for them having to shift gears manually is just an extra hassle. They want their appliance to take them from A to B, and they want it done with minimum amount of effort and engagement since they have many other things to focus on, like their phone or their make-up. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just a different approach to driving.


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#3422190 - 07/11/14 10:09 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 9382
Loc: Clovis, CA
When I first started driving manual, I thought you were supposed to ease out the clutch pedal on every single shift. It wasn't until later I found out you only have to ease out the clutch when pulling away from a stop.

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#3422199 - 07/11/14 10:16 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Merkava_4]
Corvette Owner Offline


Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 1614
Loc: Waldorf, Maryland
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
When I first started driving manual, I thought you were supposed to ease out the clutch pedal on every single shift. It wasn't until later I found out you only have to ease out the clutch when pulling away from a stop.


Wrong, you should always feather gas with each shift for smooth shifting ( unless you are speed shifting). Clutch and gas feet work opposite.

My Corvette is manual, but I didn't have city commute, or I would have got an automatic. Manuals are no fun in stop and go traffic! And yes my Corvette was a daily driver/ work commute (was because I am now retired).


Edited by Corvette Owner (07/11/14 10:19 PM)
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#3422201 - 07/11/14 10:17 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Merkava_4]
Clubber_Lang Offline


Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 294
Loc: SC
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
When I first started driving manual, I thought you were supposed to ease out the clutch pedal on every single shift. It wasn't until later I found out you only have to ease out the clutch when pulling away from a stop.


You dont have to ease it out ever. Burnout!
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#3422204 - 07/11/14 10:20 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: cashmoney]
Clubber_Lang Offline


Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 294
Loc: SC
Originally Posted By: cashmoney
I'm in the auto trans only club. Not a fan of 1920's technology. Now a double clutch automated manual would be just fine for me.


Thats exactly what he said. When .gov mandates self driving cars you guys will be happy i guess.
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#3422205 - 07/11/14 10:21 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
sicko Offline


Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 936
Loc: Virginia
I enjoy driving a stick, but my current car was only available as an automatic. I keep saying I want to get a project car that's fun to drive and has a manual transmission. That way I can enjoy working on a car, and have fun driving a stick whenever I take it out. Only problem is there is always traffic around where I live, so you only get to enjoy driving a stick in short bursts.

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#3422207 - 07/11/14 10:23 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Corvette Owner]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 9382
Loc: Clovis, CA
Originally Posted By: Corvette Owner
Wrong, you should always feather gas with each shift for smooth shifting ( unless you are speed shifting). Clutch and gas feet work opposite.

My Corvette is manual, but I didn't have city commute, or I would have got an automatic. Manuals are no fun in stop and go traffic! And yes my Corvette was a daily driver/ work commute (was because I am now retired).


But you're not suppose to let the clutch out quite as slow when shifting gears as you do when pulling away from a stop. If you do, it considered dogging the clutch.

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#3422210 - 07/11/14 10:25 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
ClutchDisc Offline


Registered: 11/23/12
Posts: 1128
Loc: Detroit area
I will never give up driving the stick!! I hate it when I have to drive an auto.. Which is thankfully not very often!
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#3422212 - 07/11/14 10:27 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
antiqueshell Offline


Registered: 03/02/12
Posts: 4231
Loc: chicago, Illinois
Considering the state of the Main Street economy you would think the incentive to save at least 1000$ on a car by selecting a manual would be a no brainer. Heck then the cost of maintenance goes way down as well, and the longevity of that manual box is going to be quite a bit longer than the auto/CVT/DSG anything, it could last three times longer.

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#3422213 - 07/11/14 10:28 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: sicko]
Clubber_Lang Offline


Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 294
Loc: SC
Originally Posted By: sicko
I enjoy driving a stick, but my current car was only available as an automatic. I keep saying I want to get a project car that's fun to drive and has a manual transmission. That way I can enjoy working on a car, and have fun driving a stick whenever I take it out. Only problem is there is always traffic around where I live, so you only get to enjoy driving a stick in short bursts.


Heavy traffic is no issuue (to me) Whats the big deal, when your stuck in traffic put it in neutral.
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#3422216 - 07/11/14 10:29 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: antiqueshell]
Clubber_Lang Offline


Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 294
Loc: SC
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Considering the state of the Main Street economy you would think the incentive to save at least 1000$ on a car by selecting a manual would be a no brainer. Heck then the cost of maintenance goes way down as well, and the longevity of that manual box is going to be quite a bit longer than the auto/CVT/DSG anything, it could last three times longer.


Exactly. But people are ham fisted dorks.
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#3422221 - 07/11/14 10:30 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
Digital2k2 Offline


Registered: 01/12/04
Posts: 367
Loc: va
I miss my old manual transmission truck. When I got my new one, I couldn't even find one in the state with a manual to test drive. Probably should have had a dealer bring one in, but figured if I did get it, I wouldn't get near as good a deal as one already on the lot.

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#3422222 - 07/11/14 10:31 PM Re: Why Don't people enjoy driving a manual trans?? [Re: Clubber_Lang]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 1802
Loc: Indiana
I enjoy manual transmissions, but there is a very small market for them in the US compared to say Europe. The Grand Cherokee was only offered with a manual gear box in 93 and 94. Wouldn't mind having a 5 speed 2 door XJ though.
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