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#3414535 - 07/04/14 01:40 PM Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi
SnPb Offline


Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Arizona
I thought that I would share the results of the last oil change on my Civic. The oil used was 3 qts of 5W-20 Pennzoil Platinum and 1 qt of 0W-20 Subaru branded Idemitsu SM that I had on hand. The Maintenance Minder was at 15% oil life remaining when changed. The previous fill was 100% Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 for comparison.

I decided to use 5W-20 as opposed to 0W-20 as I don't think that there is a significant advantage to using the later in a climate where it rarely drops below freezing and is often quite hot. It would be good if the higher Viscosity Index were the result of a better base oil, but perhaps not so good if it is the result of a higher percentage of VI Improver in the mix.

This is the last oil analysis that I plan to perform on this car as the results appear acceptable to me, and I used my last Blackstone sample kit.

Cheers,
Jeff

OIL Penplat PenPlat Toyota Honda Univ
GRADE 5W20 5W20 0w20 0w20 Avg
MILES IN USE 7529 5782 6033 5742
MILES 28119 20860 15078 9045
SAMPLE TAKEN 5/18/14 11/24/136/9/13 11/10/12

ALUMINUM 14 16 25 14 8
CHROMIUM 0 0 0 0 0
IRON 7 6 12 8 8
COPPER 1 2 4 5 0
LEAD 0 0 0 0 0
TIN 0 2 1 2 1
MOLYBDENUM 61 63 185 662 72
NICKEL 0 0 0 0 0
MANGANESE 1 1 1 1 1
SILVER 0 0 0 0 0
TITANIUM 0 0 0 0 2
POTASSIUM 0 0 0 5 14
BORON 27 5 10 35 43
SILICON 16 17 26 45 16
SODIUM 4 7 5 0 44
CALCIUM 2224 2237 2220 1850 2104
MAGNESIUM 12 13 20 7 175
PHOSPHORUS 564 566 767 697 669
ZINC 661 633 934 839 774
BARIUM 0 0 0 0 0

SUS VIS 210F 48.9 51.3 52.2 51.4
cSt @ 212F 6.93 7.66 7.94 7.70
FLASHPOINT F 420 370 410 405
FUEL <0.5 <0.5 <0.5 <0.5
ANTIFREEZE 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
WATER 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
INSOLUBLES TR 0.1 0.2 0.3
TBN 4.6 2.6 2.6 0.2

FILTER Honda Purolat Honda Honda
A02 PL14610 A02 A02

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#3414550 - 07/04/14 01:58 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: SnPb]
SnPb Offline


Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Arizona
I apologize for the lack of spacing in the table, but I couldn't resolve it before the post as locked and I could no longer edit it.

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#3414556 - 07/04/14 02:04 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: SnPb]
SnPb Offline


Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Arizona
Code:
OIL             Penplat PenPlat Toyota  Honda   Univ
GRADE           5W20    5W20    0w20    0w20    Avg
MILES IN USE    7529    5782    6033    5742	
MILES           28119   20860   15078   9045	
SAMPLE TAKEN    5/18/14 11/24/136/9/13  11/10/12

ALUMINUM        14      16      25      14      8
CHROMIUM        0       0       0       0       0
IRON            7       6       12      8       8
COPPER          1       2       4       5       0
LEAD            0       0       0       0	0
TIN             0       2       1       2       1
MOLYBDENUM      61      63      185     662     72
NICKEL          0       0       0       0       0
MANGANESE       1       1       1       1       1
SILVER          0       0       0       0       0
TITANIUM        0       0       0       0       2
POTASSIUM       0       0       0       5       14
BORON           27      5       10      35      43
SILICON         16      17      26      45      16
SODIUM          4       7       5       0       44
CALCIUM         2224    2237    2220    1850    2104
MAGNESIUM       12      13      20      7       175
PHOSPHORUS      564     566     767     697     669
ZINC            661     633     934     839     774
BARIUM          0       0       0       0       0
     
SUS VIS 210F   48.9    51.3    52.2    51.4
cSt @ 212F     6.93    7.66    7.94    7.70
FLASHPOINT F   420     370     410     405
FUEL            <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5
ANTIFREEZE      0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0
WATER           0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0
INSOLUBLES      TR      0.1     0.2     0.3
TBN             4.6     2.6     2.6     0.2

FILTER          Honda   Purolat Honda	Honda
                A02     PL14610 A02	A02

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#3415033 - 07/05/14 07:03 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: SnPb]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8514
Loc: MN
The Toyota 0w-20 gave you lots more wear metals.

The PP/Oil Filters lowered your Insolubles. Which Oil Filters did you use?

I'd stay with PP. thumbsup

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03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k, M1 TDT
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 Rare "Red Hot" PYB
97 Camry 223k Maxlife


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#3415037 - 07/05/14 07:14 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: Turk]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 11555
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: Turk
The Toyota 0w-20 gave you lots more wear metals


You heretic. LOL
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#3415051 - 07/05/14 07:44 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: Trav]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8514
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Turk
The Toyota 0w-20 gave you lots more wear metals


You heretic. LOL


I know. crackmeup

gladiator
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00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 Rare "Red Hot" PYB
97 Camry 223k Maxlife


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#3415132 - 07/05/14 09:40 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: SnPb]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 28601
Loc: a prisoner island
Clearly the TGMO run was an issue with the engine, not the lubricant, as TGMO is the best that there is, and the only time that it doesn't looks so, there's another factor (the engine) at work...

Nice series of tests, and I concur with your conclusions.

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#3415188 - 07/05/14 10:47 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: Turk]
SnPb Offline


Registered: 06/26/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Arizona
Turk, Honda A02 Filters were used, except a Purolator Pure1 was used with the first fill of Pennzoil Platinum.

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#3448860 - 08/07/14 01:37 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W20, Honda Civic R18, 7259 mi [Re: SnPb]
HKPolice Offline


Registered: 03/31/12
Posts: 332
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I don't know why people keep repeating the myth that Honda engines are "easy on oil". This R18 sheared the oil from ~8.5 cst to under 7 cst after 7.5k miles on PP which is considered a top shelf synthetic.

While the TBN remained strong probably due a lot of highway trips, the oil took a hard physical beating to shear so much especially with no trace of water and minimal fuel dilution.

A less stout oil like bulk dino 5w20 would've probably sheared out of grade after 5k miles and caused excessive engine wear if ran to 0% OLM.

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