Recent Topics
good prepaid cell phone?
by Oldtom
06/30/16 12:42 AM
Waterproof gun bag?
by 901Memphis
06/29/16 11:59 PM
Admin trash the 2 oldest VOAs I posted
by Mainia
06/29/16 11:09 PM
Atlas Copco Roto-Xtend Rotary Screw Comp Oil VOA
by Mainia
06/29/16 11:06 PM
"Global" antifreeze - contains EHA/2EHA?
by Jonzobot
06/29/16 11:03 PM
Schaeffer's# 158 Moly Pure Synthetic Comp. Oil VOA
by Mainia
06/29/16 10:41 PM
Atlas Copco Roto-Xtend Rotary Screw Comp Oil VOA
by Mainia
06/29/16 10:36 PM
My CarQuest premium filter??
by MNfarmer33
06/29/16 10:26 PM
Incandescent Light History and Metallurgy
by MolaKule
06/29/16 09:54 PM
Pass Word Changed?
by ls973800
06/29/16 09:26 PM
Best canned Mandarins
by aquariuscsm
06/29/16 09:11 PM
Super Short Commute OCI?
by randomhero439
06/29/16 09:08 PM
Newest Members
MNfarmer33, doublegarage, goatrancher, jameson223, graywolf001
58322 Registered Users
Who's Online
34 registered (CR94, bvance554, bbhero, alcyon, brian_06328, 5 invisible), 775 Guests and 16 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
58322 Members
66 Forums
251012 Topics
4114504 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#3414226 - 07/04/14 07:47 AM Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic?
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
A bit of a yawn but was looking at the msds and tds to see how much zddp was in this oil and saw it listed as synthetic oil on one of the data sheets. I thought it was a misprint but it's got a pour point of -45 degree C, bit low for a mineral oil.

next week on inane information...

regards Riggaz

Top
#3414236 - 07/04/14 07:56 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: riggaz]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 31669
Loc: Great Lakes
Odd. The TDS for the US market still shows pour point of -30C.
_________________________
'02 530i (Edge HM 10W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)

Top
#3414249 - 07/04/14 08:05 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: Quattro Pete]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
Maybe they'll update the formulation?...

http://www.epc.shell.com/

UK one is defo saying -45'c and when you look on composition is says synthetic base oil as the major ingredient

msds sheet no 001E7481


Edited by riggaz (07/04/14 08:12 AM)

Top
#3414257 - 07/04/14 08:20 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: riggaz]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 31669
Loc: Great Lakes
I think this is the TDS that you're referring to that shows pour point of -45C:

http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC_Loc...n-GB%29_TDS.pdf

They're so proud of it, they listed the pour point twice. smile

For us here in the US, I don't think we even have the Helix line here. I've never seen it. We do have the Rotella line where a 15w-40 mineral oil is available, alas, it's HDEO. They've recently added the T5 15w-40 which is a synthetic blend.

_________________________
'02 530i (Edge HM 10W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)

Top
#3414270 - 07/04/14 08:33 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: Quattro Pete]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
lol, I spotted that

they usually sell all Shell UK products as Pennzoil in your manor I think but there doesn't seem to be a 15w40 in the list, must not be a popular viscosity for car engines in the US.


Edited by riggaz (07/04/14 08:37 AM)

Top
#3414277 - 07/04/14 08:43 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: riggaz]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 31669
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: riggaz
but there doesn't seem to be a 15w40 in the list, must not be a popular viscosity for car engines in the US.

Yup. CAFE/EPA made sure of that over here. smile
_________________________
'02 530i (Edge HM 10W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)

Top
#3414313 - 07/04/14 09:29 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: riggaz]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1769
Loc: London, England
I though HX5 was always a semi synth

And that HX3 was the mineral oil
_________________________
14 Kia Picanto 1.0 City 10k miles. Kia 5w30
07 Citroen Berlingo Multispace 1.4i 39k 10w40 Maxlife

Top
#3414482 - 07/04/14 12:44 PM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: riggaz]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1260
Loc: Fiume, EU
Maybe they are using old ultra base in helix 5 now they moved to GTL for their top oil.
_________________________
99 FIAT Punto Sporting 16v ( Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 )
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Selenia WR 5w40)

Top
#3414978 - 07/05/14 03:17 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: chrisri]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
I think it's the GTL base oil in the HX5, they seem call it interchangable low viscosity base oil in the msds. The old ultra base oil didn't have a pour point that low from memory.

Top
#3414980 - 07/05/14 03:20 AM Re: Shell Helix HX5 SN 15w40 mineral now synthetic? [Re: bigjl]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
HX3 is a mineral
HX5 was also mineral oil
HX7 is the semi

must be cheaper to make the GTL than the mineral oil i guess.

Top