2000 Mustang front hub replacement

[ledslinger]

I'm going to replace the hubs on my 2000 Mustang V6 and have been shopping and need some help with finding the best part for the best price. Considering the Timken 513115 from Rock Auto for $47.79 plus shipping and the Motorcraft hub108 on ebay for 78.31 shipped.

My Mustang is non ABS so I don't need the reluctor ring which I suppose doesn't matter and I can remove if I want to.

Are the cheap Value Pro and Pro Part hubs decent for savings or stick with the Timken or Raybestos?

 

[Sawdusted]

stick with the good brands. You don't want to redo the job anytime soon.

 

[JC1]

Originally Posted By: ledslinger
Are the cheap Value Pro and Pro Part hubs decent for savings or stick with the Timken or Raybestos?


Stick with Timken and Raybestos. I bought some cheap stabilizer bar links from Rockauto. One of the grease fittings popped off and I had to replace it again. This time I chose Raybestos.
Works much better and you can see the quality difference when you compare them side by side.

Regards, JC.

 

[Trav]

The Timken may or may not be US made, i would go to Autozone and have a look at one before buying.
If it has CN or China on the inner race chances are good the one from Rock will be Chicom also.

If made in USA chances are the one from Rock will be also but no guarantee.
This is one of the parts you don't go cheap on, unless you are sure its a US made Timken go with the OEM Motorcraft.

I was reading just the other day in a German article that F.A.G. is making Chinese bearings for the US and others markets but not their domestic. Ditto SKF.
National which is now Moog has gone Chinese for bearings and are some serious trash, chances are Raybestos is Chinese.

Stay clear of stuff like Value Pro, Pro Part and other Cheesy parts. There are bad Chinese and slightly better than bad Chinese and that stuff is bottom of the barrel.

 

[901Memphis]

Go with the Motorcraft

 

[Kruse]

Originally Posted By: Trav

National which is now Moog has gone Chinese for bearings and are some serious trash,


I replaced the front wheel bearings on my mom's Taurus several years ago and I bought two National-branded replacements. One was American-made and the finished machining was beautiful. The other one was made overseas and looked terrible. Also, it was improperly assembled and I pointed that out to the parts man, who agreed and ordered me a replacement. The replacement was also made overseas and the finished product again looked terrible. Fast-forward about two months and the overseas-made bearing failed. I have no idea how long the latest bearing lasted as she traded the car off after that.
To the OP: seriously consider the Motorcraft bearings.

 

[Trav]

National was a very good bearing and hub, the first Moog branded ones on the shelf were still USA made but now it seems to be all Chinese.
Another good company gone to China. I just had my son send me 2 F.A.G. German made hubs for a VW, i couldn't find a USA made one. The US VW dealer was made in Mexico.

$62 ea (converted rate) inc MwSt and a week shipping. Cheaper than a Chinese Timken and it came with the correct 12 point nut and Torx Rotor screw.
My question is if the Germans can sell it for $62 including almost 20% tax what is going on here in the USA where a Chinese Timken at Rock cost $76 with no nut and no screw plus shipping and AZ is $100?
Something is seriously wrong.

 

[The_Eric]

Originally Posted By: Trav

My question is if the Germans can sell it for $62 including almost 20% tax what is going on here in the USA where a Chinese Timken at Rock cost $76 with no nut and no screw plus shipping and AZ is $100?
Something is seriously wrong.




I believe the correct answer is greed.

 

[Trav]

I believe you are correct Sir!
I was looking at a Chinese manufacturer of ABS sensors, same part number as a well known US vendor selling "Made in China" ones, $.50 ea min order 1,000 units and they sell for minimum $25.
So they invest $500 and make $25K. Greed? Profit? I would say they couldn't do it any better if they hit you over the head in a back alley and took your wallet.

 

[bdcardinal]

Keep in mind that you are supposed to replace the retaining nut when you change the hub bearing.

 

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: Trav

$62 ea (converted rate) inc MwSt and a week shipping. Cheaper than a Chinese Timken and it came with the correct 12 point nut and Torx Rotor screw.
My question is if the Germans can sell it for $62 including almost 20% tax what is going on here in the USA where a Chinese Timken at Rock cost $76 with no nut and no screw plus shipping and AZ is $100?
Something is seriously wrong.



The greater the number of VWs, the greater the number of parts stores that can quickly turn over the inventory. Having an item that sits there for a while demands a higher price. Here in the USA, since VWs are much less common, so parts may sit in a warehouse for a longer period of time.

Anyway, I only recommend a premium brand replacement hub for your Mustang, but remember that some premium brands have decided to cheapen their product and make it not much better than generic junk from China.

Motorcraft is a good choice, hopefully it is the actual OE part, rather than a name written on some other companies part. Some posters have encountered that with Motorcraft brake pads and rotors.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: artificialist
The greater the number of VWs, the greater the number of parts stores that can quickly turn over the inventory. Having an item that sits there for a while demands a higher price. Here in the USA, since VWs are much less common, so parts may sit in a warehouse for a longer period of time.


Your probably right about that. I just figured because this hub is used on many VW and Audi cars over almost a decade there would be a larger market for it.

 

[asand1]

Originally Posted By: Trav
I just had my son send me 2 F.A.G. German made hubs for a VW, i couldn't find a USA made one. The US VW dealer was made in Mexico.


Considering that the majority of North American VWs are built in Mexico and Brazil, I fail to see your aversion to putting a Mexican part in a Mexican car.

 

[asand1]

I find the saddest part of this post is that a RWD American car has a front sealed unit bearing that is not greasable, and has ball bearings that are placed closer together than tapered ball bearings and as a result are much more failure prone. I would be looking at race parts such as Wilwood for a real hub with real bearings.

http://www.partsgeek.com/pmszm7h-ford-mu...;ad=40264059132

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: asand1
Originally Posted By: Trav
I just had my son send me 2 F.A.G. German made hubs for a VW, i couldn't find a USA made one. The US VW dealer was made in Mexico.


Considering that the majority of North American VWs are built in Mexico and Brazil, I fail to see your aversion to putting a Mexican part in a Mexican car.

Because like the rest of the car the parts are poor quality compared to German made.
If i can get a German product instead of Mexican for the same or less money you bet i am buying that instead.