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#3385786 - 05/31/14 07:11 PM Who Does Oil Analysis?
borgward Offline


Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 35
Loc: Central Texas
I previously had Blackstone do Oil Analysis. Are they still relaible? Anybody else?

I bought a new Ford Fiesta. Dealer recommends 10,000 mile first oil change. I am thinking that's a little long. As I recall reading in this forum that 7,000 miles was when to change. I guess maybe Ford would like the car to wear out sooner so they can sell more new ones. I am planning on having the oil analyzed at 5000 miles.

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#3385806 - 05/31/14 07:31 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
lawman1909 Offline


Registered: 03/20/14
Posts: 629
Loc: USA
Blackstone is very reputable. I, along with friends use them from time to time and never a bad or questionable answer.
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#3385816 - 05/31/14 07:46 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
Burt Offline


Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 1166
Loc: texas
No, Ford does not want your engine to wear out faster. They want to brag about low maintenance costs.

It is pretty well documented here that if you take a new car and don't change or add oil the engine will run out of oil and seize up around 40,000 miles. If you top off the oil but don't change it the engine will last 70,000 miles.

Therefore all the oil and filter changes that you do extend the engine life from 70,000 miles to ___ pick a number for the probable life of the car.

Oh and the UOA will merely tell you whether the head gasket is leaking the air filter is amiss, or fuel is leaking into the oil. I rarely have I seen an analysis here where they said, "don't leave it is so long next time."

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#3385856 - 05/31/14 08:44 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
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Registered: 08/28/13
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Loc: MEMPHIS, TN
The fusion gets 10k mile intervals. No usage. No leaks.
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#3386270 - 06/01/14 12:59 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Originally Posted By: borgward
Re: Who Does Oil Analysis?

Blackstone, Polaris, Wearcheck... take your pick.
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#3387423 - 06/02/14 10:27 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
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Registered: 06/05/02
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And don't forget ALS.
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#3389459 - 06/05/14 08:00 AM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: Burt]
Spector Offline


Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 3260
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
[quote=Burt]It is pretty well documented here that if you take a new car and don't change or add oil the engine will run out of oil and seize up around 40,000 miles. If you top off the oil but don't change it the engine will last 70,000 miles. Therefore all the oil and filter changes that you do extend the engine life from 70,000 miles to ___ pick a number for the probable life of the car. /quote]

Really, documented where?

No one has ever shown that changing your oil at 3000 miles versus the factory recommendation extends the life of the engine? never been done in a scientific test, all anecdotal

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#3390916 - 06/06/14 05:29 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: Spector]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 1677
Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
Hello, Clean is better than dirty. Oil is cheap compared to engine wear. Auto makers lie to look good. Lower maintenance cost projections look better than higher ones.

I think it's all been documented. Kira

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#3391144 - 06/06/14 10:31 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: Kira]
Spector Offline


Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 3260
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
Originally Posted By: Kira
Hello, Clean is better than dirty. Oil is cheap compared to engine wear. Auto makers lie to look good. Lower maintenance cost projections look better than higher ones.

I think it's all been documented. Kira


Still sounds anecdotal to me!

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#3396857 - 06/13/14 06:29 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
borgward Offline


Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 35
Loc: Central Texas
I am guessing a manufacturor would prefer your car to wear out at 200,000 miles instead of at 300,000. Joe Blow will not be too mad if the car is shot at 200,000. Manufacturor gets to sell new car 2/3 sooner. I am happy to change oil sooner if I can get another 100,000 miles out of it.

I knew a guy that bought a Chevy and never changed oil. Just kept adding oil as it went down. He complained that the drive shaft went south at 150,000 miles.


Edited by borgward (06/13/14 06:32 PM)

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#3402573 - 06/20/14 09:15 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
dave1251 Offline


Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 7637
Loc: Maricopa, AZ
Very few posts in this thread makes any sense.
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#3474513 - 09/05/14 06:37 AM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: Quattro Pete]
jorton Offline


Registered: 07/04/03
Posts: 2910
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: borgward
Re: Who Does Oil Analysis?

Blackstone, Polaris, Wearcheck... take your pick.

Which ones provide the condition/status and tbn for a sample in their basic analysis?
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#3481345 - 09/12/14 07:17 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: borgward]
Spector Offline


Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 3260
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
I used to do an UOA at every change on every vehicle for several years in the mid 90s. I finally quit when I realized they were pretty much useless for predicting my engine wear and problems. Other than coolant in oil (which you should be able to determine without a UOA) they really did not help much so I decided to just change the oil at 7500 or so and forget about wasting my money on these. Some had such huge wear numbers the engine was doomed but in reality they just kept on chugging along. So, IMO keep your money and forget UOA!

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#3493564 - 09/25/14 08:08 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: dave1251]
MobilinHyundia Offline


Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 203
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I always wonder how much technical knowledge people have making comments here.
Most have NEVER even removed an oil filter by the looks of it.
Too many comments are just garbage!

What make me really mad is people with over a 1000 posts like making stupid comments.
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#3493622 - 09/25/14 09:06 PM Re: Who Does Oil Analysis? [Re: MobilinHyundia]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 28971
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: MobilinHyundia
What make me really mad is people with over a 1000 posts like making stupid comments.

Typically, the advice given is worth what you pay for it, and last time I checked, BITOG membership was free.

If you want true UOA interpretation by someone who does this for a living, you're going to have to pay for it.

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Too many comments are just garbage!

If you don't like it, you can always start your own internet oil forum. smile
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