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#3402346 - 06/20/14 03:35 PM Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer
HAWG4LIFE Offline


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I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?
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#3402351 - 06/20/14 03:38 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
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Just use one quart of the synthetic 40 or 50 grade oil of your choice. It is just as or more cost effective as Lucas oil stabilizer yet more beneficial as motor oil is formulated to be compatible with motor oil.
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#3402352 - 06/20/14 03:38 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: dave1251]
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#3402356 - 06/20/14 03:41 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: dave1251]
HAWG4LIFE Offline


Registered: 03/18/06
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Originally Posted By: dave1251
Just use one quart of the synthetic 40 or 50 grade oil of your choice. It is just as or more cost effective as Lucas oil stabilizer yet more beneficial as motor oil is formulated to be compatible with motor oil.


Im not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I get the impression that there is some hidden angst here. Just what is lucas formulated to work with? LOL
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#3402357 - 06/20/14 03:44 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
cknight49090 Offline


Registered: 01/25/14
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Loc: south haven mi
Snake oil the regular oil stabilizer is mineral oil based I believe. Nothing but a viscosity booster with no additives and will dilute the oils additive package.Save your money .


Edited by cknight49090 (06/20/14 03:45 PM)

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#3402360 - 06/20/14 03:49 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 7749
Loc: Barberton,Ohio
its pure junk. I'd rather run the engine a quart low than have a quart of their crud in there.

Their gear oil is also terrible.

Don't know much about the motor oil except its overpriced.


Edited by Rand (06/20/14 03:49 PM)
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#3402363 - 06/20/14 03:51 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
dave1251 Offline


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Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Just use one quart of the synthetic 40 or 50 grade oil of your choice. It is just as or more cost effective as Lucas oil stabilizer yet more beneficial as motor oil is formulated to be compatible with motor oil.


Im not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I get the impression that there is some hidden angst here. Just what is lucas formulated to work with? LOL


There is no hidden angst at all. If you open a thread about Lucas motor oil I will be the first to state Lucas API certified motor oil is good stuff but overpriced.

Lucas oil stabilizer is just a 40 grade motor oil that is sold at a outrageous price.
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#3402365 - 06/20/14 03:52 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
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All Lucas oil stabilizers are snake oil. There is nothing that needs modified in a proper oil package that is already balanced perfectly for its intended application if it meets the proper specifications such as API SN/GF5 and many regarded builder approvals.
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#3402374 - 06/20/14 04:07 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
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The Lucas additives get a lot of hate on BITOG, which may be deserved, but they do have a few things going for them: Lucas believes in their products, uses them in their fleet, and thinks they benefit from their use.
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#3402378 - 06/20/14 04:10 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
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Registered: 07/26/04
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Loc: Middlesex County CT
Who thinks any API oil in 2014 needs a stabilizer.

10K OCI w/ UOA shows they need no help at all.
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#3402379 - 06/20/14 04:12 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: simple_gifts]
cknight49090 Offline


Registered: 01/25/14
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Loc: south haven mi
40 grade try like 90

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#3402380 - 06/20/14 04:12 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
old1 Offline


Registered: 01/04/11
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Loc: Nebraska USA rural
I have no love for Lucas oil stabilizer, but to say it is just grade 40 motor oil is not even close. It is MUCH thicker than any regular oil I have ever seen. seems to me it is about like 50% 50 wt. oil, and 50% STP, without the good zinc in the stp. Like STP, only good for the old beater with BAD rod or main bearings, to hold it together for a few more miles till it can be junked, repaired, or sold to some unsuspecting poor soul.

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#3402406 - 06/20/14 04:59 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
901Memphis Online   content


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The last VOA of Lucas stablizer said it had a viscosity of 110 cSt@100C, which is over 10 tens thicker than a 30 grade motor oil.
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#3402449 - 06/20/14 06:27 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: 901Memphis]
yonyon Offline


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Loc: NJ, USA
Wait, if it's 10 tens thicker, does that mean it would be okay to use in Australia?

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#3402451 - 06/20/14 06:34 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: yonyon]
901Memphis Online   content


Registered: 08/14/10
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Originally Posted By: yonyon
Wait, if it's 10 tens thicker, does that mean it would be okay to use in Australia?


I wouldn't use it anywhere on earth. There is no need for such a high viscosity additive in a healthy engine. Just adding one bottle could increase viscosity enough to increase filter by passing events under load/cold starts.

I can't imagine what happens when someone does a double dose or more on a higher specified grade. Like the guy at Autozone I saw grabbing two bottles of Lucas to go with his 10w40 high mileage into a 5w20 Toyota engine.
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#3402461 - 06/20/14 07:00 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: 901Memphis]
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Loc: California
The regular Lucas Oil Stabilizer is based on heavy bright stocks, with 20-30% Olefin Copolymer viscosity improvers. This much can be surmised from the MSDS.

The Synthetic Oil Stabilizer is much less viscous, with a viscosity of 45 at 100C. It seems to be based on a heavy Group III oil, but the MSDS doesn't say what else is in it. Probably more viscosity improver, although a tech support guy at Lucas said there's some group IV in it.

Rand, can you tell us what's "terrible" about Lucas Gear Oil?
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#3402466 - 06/20/14 07:07 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
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Registered: 08/28/13
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Loc: MEMPHIS, TN
All I've found it good for was building the old mustang motor and using as assembly lube.
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#3402493 - 06/20/14 07:44 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: 901Memphis]
SuzukiGoat Offline


Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I can't imagine what happens when someone does a double dose or more on a higher specified grade. Like the guy at Autozone I saw grabbing two bottles of Lucas to go with his 10w40 high mileage into a 5w20 Toyota engine.


While I hate lucas...prove to me it would matter...at all.

Ive run a 5w20 toyota motor on 20w50 with motor honey...with zero ill effects. The vvti didnt even realize it.
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#3402610 - 06/20/14 10:24 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: SuzukiGoat]
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Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 5984
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I can't imagine what happens when someone does a double dose or more on a higher specified grade. Like the guy at Autozone I saw grabbing two bottles of Lucas to go with his 10w40 high mileage into a 5w20 Toyota engine.


While I hate lucas...prove to me it would matter...at all.

Ive run a 5w20 toyota motor on 20w50 with motor honey...with zero ill effects. The vvti didnt even realize it.



I COULD prove it to you.... but then i'd have to kill ya.
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#3402965 - 06/21/14 11:33 AM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
tom slick Offline


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Aren't you guys scared of running unstable oil? The other big oil companies haven't discovered the secret sauce for stable oil. Luckily a select few enlightened additive companies share their complex chemistry and vast technological breakthroughs with us consumers.
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#3408428 - 06/27/14 12:16 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
postjeeprcr Offline


Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 1780
Loc: USA
I had a VOA done years ago of the Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer, I will look for it and post the results once I find it.
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#3410107 - 06/29/14 03:42 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: postjeeprcr]
mr_blackstock Offline


Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 7
Loc: Victoria, Australia
G'day,

Although I have only used Lucas oil stabiliser a few times, I have had nil issues. Predominantly I use Morey's oil stabiliser, and have been for a few years now in my bikes. Initially when I put Morey's in my bike the vibration was reduced massively, so much so that the bike happily would rev out higher than before without the associated excessive vibration. I thought I might have been imagining the change, so I got rid of it, and put in my usual oil without additives. After an hours ride I got home and added the additive again and I have not once doubted it's effectiveness.

A type of proof I do remember is an oil change I did on the bike a year ago. Usually I empty my oil drain tray soon after it is out of the bike, in this instance I was lazy and left it over night. In the morning I emptied it into my old oil drum and noticed a thick oily coating where the oil had sat. It was oil alright, but sticky. I had to use degreaser just to get the stuff off! Normally when I empty old oil into my drum nothing gets left in the tray, I can usually wipe it with a rag and it's clean. This morey's stuck to the tray after 5000kms. Good enough for me..




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#3413112 - 07/03/14 01:53 AM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
Marco620 Offline


Registered: 02/25/14
Posts: 218
Loc: Midwest, Rural KS
I would say its better to run liquimoly motor oil saver than lucas. Even if you ran it and LM mos2 you would have 1/3 qt left to add actual oil and it would be better than lucas. When I thought I needed an oil supplement long ago, I used a qt of redline sae 30wt and it filled my void. Lucas is awesome on door hinges and sewing machines; that is it along with lower oci.

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#3413651 - 07/03/14 04:37 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7354
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?



No.


What part of an oil formulated today is unstable and requires something so thick,and non-additized to compensate.
Try running non-additized oil is an engine and time its life with a stopwatch.
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#3413955 - 07/03/14 09:44 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: Clevy]
GatorJ Offline


Registered: 07/24/03
Posts: 172
Loc: Tampa
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?



No.


What part of an oil formulated today is unstable and requires something so thick,and non-additized to compensate.
Try running non-additized oil is an engine and time its life with a stopwatch.


LOL. Or requires Liqui-Moly? Quick answer? None.

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#3413966 - 07/03/14 09:53 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: GatorJ]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7354
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: GatorJ
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?



No.


What part of an oil formulated today is unstable and requires something so thick,and non-additized to compensate.
Try running non-additized oil is an engine and time its life with a stopwatch.


LOL. Or requires Liqui-Moly? Quick answer? None.



Really.


I've cured gasket leaks with liqui-moly motor oil saver and gained mileage using mos2.

So do tell genius,considering they are additized,and actually do something how exactly do they compare to a non-additized,molasses thick additive.

If you can show me the exact same benefits just using a standard motor as I've experienced using liqui-moly then by golly I'll quit buying the stuff,til then how about sticking to the topic.
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#3430557 - 07/20/14 07:48 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
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First of all, i would never use lucas.

However i do know someone who used it every oil change in his 3.0 ranger.

It went 750,000 miles before it burnt a valve. I attribute this to that tough 3.0 motor, hwy driving and regular oci. Not the lucas. I think it was in spite of the lucas.
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