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#3402461 - 06/20/14 07:00 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: 901Memphis]
Stelth Offline


Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 1558
Loc: California
The regular Lucas Oil Stabilizer is based on heavy bright stocks, with 20-30% Olefin Copolymer viscosity improvers. This much can be surmised from the MSDS.

The Synthetic Oil Stabilizer is much less viscous, with a viscosity of 45 at 100C. It seems to be based on a heavy Group III oil, but the MSDS doesn't say what else is in it. Probably more viscosity improver, although a tech support guy at Lucas said there's some group IV in it.

Rand, can you tell us what's "terrible" about Lucas Gear Oil?
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#3402466 - 06/20/14 07:07 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
CHARLIEBRONSON21 Offline


Registered: 08/28/13
Posts: 557
Loc: MEMPHIS, TN
All I've found it good for was building the old mustang motor and using as assembly lube.
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#3402493 - 06/20/14 07:44 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: 901Memphis]
SuzukiGoat Offline


Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 401
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I can't imagine what happens when someone does a double dose or more on a higher specified grade. Like the guy at Autozone I saw grabbing two bottles of Lucas to go with his 10w40 high mileage into a 5w20 Toyota engine.


While I hate lucas...prove to me it would matter...at all.

Ive run a 5w20 toyota motor on 20w50 with motor honey...with zero ill effects. The vvti didnt even realize it.
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#3402610 - 06/20/14 10:24 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: SuzukiGoat]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 6912
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I can't imagine what happens when someone does a double dose or more on a higher specified grade. Like the guy at Autozone I saw grabbing two bottles of Lucas to go with his 10w40 high mileage into a 5w20 Toyota engine.


While I hate lucas...prove to me it would matter...at all.

Ive run a 5w20 toyota motor on 20w50 with motor honey...with zero ill effects. The vvti didnt even realize it.



I COULD prove it to you.... but then i'd have to kill ya.
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#3402965 - 06/21/14 11:33 AM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
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Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
Aren't you guys scared of running unstable oil? The other big oil companies haven't discovered the secret sauce for stable oil. Luckily a select few enlightened additive companies share their complex chemistry and vast technological breakthroughs with us consumers.
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#3408428 - 06/27/14 12:16 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
postjeeprcr Offline


Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 1786
Loc: USA
I had a VOA done years ago of the Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer, I will look for it and post the results once I find it.
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#3410107 - 06/29/14 03:42 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: postjeeprcr]
mr_blackstock Offline


Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 7
Loc: Victoria, Australia
G'day,

Although I have only used Lucas oil stabiliser a few times, I have had nil issues. Predominantly I use Morey's oil stabiliser, and have been for a few years now in my bikes. Initially when I put Morey's in my bike the vibration was reduced massively, so much so that the bike happily would rev out higher than before without the associated excessive vibration. I thought I might have been imagining the change, so I got rid of it, and put in my usual oil without additives. After an hours ride I got home and added the additive again and I have not once doubted it's effectiveness.

A type of proof I do remember is an oil change I did on the bike a year ago. Usually I empty my oil drain tray soon after it is out of the bike, in this instance I was lazy and left it over night. In the morning I emptied it into my old oil drum and noticed a thick oily coating where the oil had sat. It was oil alright, but sticky. I had to use degreaser just to get the stuff off! Normally when I empty old oil into my drum nothing gets left in the tray, I can usually wipe it with a rag and it's clean. This morey's stuck to the tray after 5000kms. Good enough for me..




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#3413112 - 07/03/14 01:53 AM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
Marco620 Offline


Registered: 02/25/14
Posts: 373
Loc: Midwest, Rural KS
I would say its better to run liquimoly motor oil saver than lucas. Even if you ran it and LM mos2 you would have 1/3 qt left to add actual oil and it would be better than lucas. When I thought I needed an oil supplement long ago, I used a qt of redline sae 30wt and it filled my void. Lucas is awesome on door hinges and sewing machines; that is it along with lower oci.

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#3413651 - 07/03/14 04:37 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 8393
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?



No.


What part of an oil formulated today is unstable and requires something so thick,and non-additized to compensate.
Try running non-additized oil is an engine and time its life with a stopwatch.
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#3413955 - 07/03/14 09:44 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: Clevy]
GatorJ Offline


Registered: 07/24/03
Posts: 180
Loc: Tampa
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?



No.


What part of an oil formulated today is unstable and requires something so thick,and non-additized to compensate.
Try running non-additized oil is an engine and time its life with a stopwatch.


LOL. Or requires Liqui-Moly? Quick answer? None.

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#3413966 - 07/03/14 09:53 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: GatorJ]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 8393
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: GatorJ
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: HAWG4LIFE
I know the regular oil stabilizer is junk, but is this any better?



No.


What part of an oil formulated today is unstable and requires something so thick,and non-additized to compensate.
Try running non-additized oil is an engine and time its life with a stopwatch.


LOL. Or requires Liqui-Moly? Quick answer? None.



Really.


I've cured gasket leaks with liqui-moly motor oil saver and gained mileage using mos2.

So do tell genius,considering they are additized,and actually do something how exactly do they compare to a non-additized,molasses thick additive.

If you can show me the exact same benefits just using a standard motor as I've experienced using liqui-moly then by golly I'll quit buying the stuff,til then how about sticking to the topic.
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#3430557 - 07/20/14 07:48 PM Re: Lucas SYNTHETIC oil stabilizer [Re: HAWG4LIFE]
Clubber_Lang Offline


Registered: 09/01/10
Posts: 294
Loc: SC
First of all, i would never use lucas.

However i do know someone who used it every oil change in his 3.0 ranger.

It went 750,000 miles before it burnt a valve. I attribute this to that tough 3.0 motor, hwy driving and regular oci. Not the lucas. I think it was in spite of the lucas.
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