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#3400687 - 06/18/14 03:04 PM Re: Valvoline jumping on the titanium trend [Re: volk06]
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Two things - I read evidence supporting that moly still does a better job than titanium which would tie in what with aquariuscsm said (I work on cost savings projects all the time for a major food company so I know where he is coming from) as the oil company could* be advertising something that is different but not necessarily better (and cheaper) and charging me the same to make more profits.

*Without some sort of extended used oil analysis or other research methods I don't know personally which is better. All I know is what I read.

I thought graphene was an invention that is really compacted graphite that can be made into thin sheets to eventually be used to make bendable screens for smart phones?
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#3400969 - 06/18/14 09:10 PM Re: Valvoline jumping on the titanium trend [Re: volk06]
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In Kendall oils, Titanium and Moly additives are used. Why would people say titanium additives replace moly if an oil has both?
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#3401030 - 06/18/14 09:56 PM Re: Valvoline jumping on the titanium trend [Re: kschachn]
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
Just my 2 cents, but I didn't get the impression that aquariuscsm was saying it's inferior, he was just asking why it costs the same when they're cutting costs on the ingredients. Sadly, this happens all the time with many businesses.


Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
If you compare ingredients old vs "new improved formulas",the new ones always leave out the expensive ingredients to substitute them for cheaper and inferior ingredients


All of which being postulated with no evidence or knowledge whatsoever, just idle guessing.


My bad, I didn't catch the word "inferior" in the original post.
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#3401038 - 06/18/14 10:05 PM Re: Valvoline jumping on the titanium trend [Re: artificialist]
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Originally Posted By: artificialist
In Kendall oils, Titanium and Moly additives are used. Why would people say titanium additives replace moly if an oil has both?


Kendall was the only one using both. That has now charged as the moly has been cut and almost completely removed. Think of it like the calcium/magnesium variations and arguments in oils.
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#3401315 - 06/19/14 08:55 AM Re: Valvoline jumping on the titanium trend [Re: volk06]
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Castrol uses both Ti and Moly in their gold bottle Edge IIRC.
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#3401550 - 06/19/14 02:20 PM Re: Valvoline jumping on the titanium trend [Re: ThirdeYe]
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Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
Just my 2 cents, but I didn't get the impression that aquariuscsm was saying it's inferior, he was just asking why it costs the same when they're cutting costs on the ingredients. Sadly, this happens all the time with many businesses.


Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
If you compare ingredients old vs "new improved formulas",the new ones always leave out the expensive ingredients to substitute them for cheaper and inferior ingredients


All of which being postulated with no evidence or knowledge whatsoever, just idle guessing.


My bad, I didn't catch the word "inferior" in the original post.


Easiest analogy I can think of is soda and shampoo. Years back,soda contained pure cane sugar,and shampoo contained naturally derived soap barks and natural oils. Same soda today uses high fructose corn syrup and shampoo contains sls and silicones (all of these ingredients being cheaper and inferior BUT "gets the job done" per se),while charging more. Products can contain inferior ingredients,but still "can get the job done".
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