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#3400147 - 06/17/14 09:37 PM plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Loc: Northern Kentucky
This is the second time I've done this. First one was a metal Fram G15 ran about 100 miles, this is the duralast g15 cross reference to that spliced into my Ford Taurus overflow return line. Less than 100 miles over two weeks of short trips ruined the plastic filter. It was fine until I did some full throttle runs to see if it would implode, it did get very wavy at full load and shortly after the next day the element came loose.

In this short time it loaded the filter good. I might do it again for the quick cleanup.

First picture is the day of the install, rest are of the removal after failure.














No leaks or anything but the filter element came loose and stopped filtering. Maybe it reached its holding capacity but I want to try it again without abusing the throttle and see how long it lasts. Also there's less contamination now that I've run two filters through it.

Going to try the Wix cross reference soon as it looks more robust.


This cooling system seems to be rough on everything. Even after doing a thorough flush two years ago and replacing the dirty overflow tank and cap with a genuine Motorcraft the system is getting dirty again. I thought it was the older style green coolant causing it so it's had Prestone all makes all models in there but it still gets sediment in the tank and floating particles on the surface of the fluid.

Currently the heater core is plugged and I'm not putting much money into this beater.
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#3400162 - 06/17/14 09:56 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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I used a metal one on the old brown van. It caught a LOT of crud, so much so that the element was completely squashed. I don't think it could even flow anymore. It never came apart, though.
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#3400168 - 06/17/14 10:00 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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Flush the heater with CLR so you have heat.
There's probably a stronger spec clear fuel filter you can keep using to clean it out.
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#3400169 - 06/17/14 10:02 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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I wish I had a pressurized recovery tank in any of the vehicles I own. If I did I'd do exactly what you did. Nice, cheap, easy, and it works. Cutting a heater hose and plumping in a filter to a 5/8" or 3/4" heater hose is a bit more challenging, and costly.

Thanks for posting!
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#3400180 - 06/17/14 10:15 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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Thats pretty neat but I'd use a metal one for a high pressure fuel injected system. The carbed ones you used are designed for about 5 psi but fuel injection systems can do around 60 psi on some cars.
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#3400192 - 06/17/14 10:35 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: Chris142]
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
Thats pretty neat but I'd use a metal one for a high pressure fuel injected system. The carbed ones you used are designed for about 5 psi but fuel injection systems can do around 60 psi on some cars.

If he is running a stock radiator cap, his cooling system probably uses 15 PSI of pressure. That could be a problem.

I never imagined this would work. Often plastic products are designed for a certain grop of chemicals. One for gasoline, one for oil and ATF, one for antifreeze, one for brake fluid, and one for diesel fuel.
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#3400216 - 06/17/14 11:27 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: artificialist]
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Which is why i only had it on there for about 100 miles. The plastic didn't seem to have much of a problem short term the failure was the adhesive holding the element to the base inside.
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#3400226 - 06/17/14 11:38 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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That is a good idea! Would be nice to get a re-usable filter of some sort that is tougher and easy to clean for re-use. Great to use once in a while to keep things clean and crud free.
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#3400268 - 06/18/14 01:23 AM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
901Memphis Offline


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http://www.magnafuel.com/products/accessories/filters/

That looks interesting but probably too much for me.
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#3400599 - 06/18/14 12:55 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
901Memphis Offline


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Also I saw one plastic filter similar said rated for 10 psi, so it was only stressing it a little.
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#3400634 - 06/18/14 01:39 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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Registered: 08/14/10
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Stay tuned i am going to grab a Wix 33003 and put it on tomorrow and hopefully i can put enough miles on it to see what it catches!

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail...5&ppt=C0024
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#3400664 - 06/18/14 02:25 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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Interesting!

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#3400936 - 06/18/14 08:32 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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Registered: 08/14/10
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Loc: Northern Kentucky
Went to pick up this Wix 33003 on break at the close by O'Reilly and wanted to put it on before my short drive home tonight but I think I left my little piece of rubber hose with clamp in the other car, so it will have to wait. Hopefully I can locate the little hose since it won't work without it.

Initially impression of the Wix compared to the Duralast cross reference leave me feeling the Wix is more robust and should hold up better.

The duralast was made in China but had a metal end cap, the Wix is made in Russia and has only potting material holding the end together. Time will tell if it lasts more than 100 miles without the glue coming off.


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#3401016 - 06/18/14 09:46 PM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: 901Memphis]
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This is an excellent concept for the Vulcan, which has a history of coolant rust particle production that clogs the heater element that has very small passages.

If you ever back flush the heater core via the heater hoses (lots of you-tube videos), you will literally get a cup or more of sediment out.

You need a much bigger filter.

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#3401123 - 06/19/14 12:15 AM Re: plastic fuel filter used as coolant filter [Re: doitmyself]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Loc: Northern Kentucky
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
This is an excellent concept for the Vulcan, which has a history of coolant rust particle production that clogs the heater element that has very small passages.

If you ever back flush the heater core via the heater hoses (lots of you-tube videos), you will literally get a cup or more of sediment out.

You need a much bigger filter.



Yes i flushed it very thoroughly 2 years ago including attaching a garden hose directly to the heater core outlet and inlet and there was a huge amount of rust sediment that came out. It was almost endless, the heat only partially came back then went mostly out again a few months later.
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