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#3400568 - 06/18/14 12:19 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: BigCahuna]
29662 Offline


Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 192
Loc: sc/fl
Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
When I buy a bike I care the least about resale.


Apparently that's all Bigcahuna cares about...who cares if it rides like a brick, as long as it holds its value...
No not really. I care about parts availability for reasonable pricing. Choice of options. Service that can be obtained in any state without having to hope the shop has seen one of my models before. And knowing that when it comes time to move on to a different model bike, that people will be willing to buy what I'm selling, no matter what year it is. Knowing that parts are available reasonably just about everywhere. Harley's made in the '70's sell today for more then what they sold for new, back then. Why, because people want them. '70 era metric bikes are giveaways. There are fields of unwanted metric bikes just rotting away. I could never understand why, with all that speed, futuristic engineering, and superior handling why they end up rusting away in the sun. I know some here feel they were worth what people spent on them. Maybe watching your money fade in to nothingness is some peoples idea of money well spent, but I just don't see it.,,


The thing about the sport bikes is that every one wants the latest and greatest. As a result the older bikes are less desireable until they become collector's items(usually about 20-25 years). With Harleys it doesn't matter because they all have 40-50 year old tracter tech. So a 20 year old bike will have similar tech to one that's 10 years old.

And Harley still wouldn't be able to build a bike as technologically advanced as a Honda NR750 today. Despite the fact that it is over 20 years old. And I don't know of many Harleys that would fetch what a Nr750 would in terms of price.


Edited by 29662 (06/18/14 12:22 PM)

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#3400579 - 06/18/14 12:30 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: 29662]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7001
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: 29662
Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
When I buy a bike I care the least about resale.


Apparently that's all Bigcahuna cares about...who cares if it rides like a brick, as long as it holds its value...
No not really. I care about parts availability for reasonable pricing. Choice of options. Service that can be obtained in any state without having to hope the shop has seen one of my models before. And knowing that when it comes time to move on to a different model bike, that people will be willing to buy what I'm selling, no matter what year it is. Knowing that parts are available reasonably just about everywhere. Harley's made in the '70's sell today for more then what they sold for new, back then. Why, because people want them. '70 era metric bikes are giveaways. There are fields of unwanted metric bikes just rotting away. I could never understand why, with all that speed, futuristic engineering, and superior handling why they end up rusting away in the sun. I know some here feel they were worth what people spent on them. Maybe watching your money fade in to nothingness is some peoples idea of money well spent, but I just don't see it.,,


The thing about the sport bikes is that every one wants the latest and greatest. As a result the older bikes are less desireable until they become collector's items(usually about 20-25 years). With Harleys it doesn't matter because they all have 40-50 year old tracter tech. So a 20 year old bike will have similar tech to one that's 10 years old.

And Harley still wouldn't be able to build a bike as technologically advanced as a Honda NR750 today. Despite the fact that it is over 20 years old. And I don't know of many Harleys that would fetch what a Nr750 would in terms of price.




So the v-rod isn't technologically advanced?

You don't have a clue what your talking about.
Harley builds a bike for the market,just like every other manufacturer does. Harley knows their customer and I have never seen a tractor engine that even remotely resembles a twin cam engine,so that comment is incorrect.
I'm not brand loyal whatsoever. I've got 2 Hondas,a Yamaha venture and a street bob.
The nicest highway riding of my fleet is definitely my venture but my favorite is my Harley without question.
Say what you want,no matter how untrue ,about Harley's. They build a bike that their customer wants,period.
I've never seen a Harley get scrapped,and I can still find parts for a shovel head,but finding parts for my venture is nearly impossible.
Just sayin.
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#3400584 - 06/18/14 12:35 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: RevRider]
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Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 192
Loc: sc/fl
The v-rod engine was designed by Porsche if I remember correctly so your statement is moot. Harley is a marketing machine that most other companies hope to emulate. Their build uality is subpar compared to many of the Metric bikes as evidenced by the FACT that they are perennially at the bottom of reliability ratings. Their succes is due more to to a subculture than the design or quality of their bikes.

As a side note Harley riders ride the fewest number of average miles per year of any major brand. Hard to rack up miles when you just go to bike night and bar hopping.lol...

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#3400712 - 06/18/14 03:51 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: 29662]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 26
Loc: mississippi
Originally Posted By: 29662
Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
When I buy a bike I care the least about resale.


Apparently that's all Bigcahuna cares about...who cares if it rides like a brick, as long as it holds its value...
No not really. I care about parts availability for reasonable pricing. Choice of options. Service that can be obtained in any state without having to hope the shop has seen one of my models before. And knowing that when it comes time to move on to a different model bike, that people will be willing to buy what I'm selling, no matter what year it is. Knowing that parts are available reasonably just about everywhere. Harley's made in the '70's sell today for more then what they sold for new, back then. Why, because people want them. '70 era metric bikes are giveaways. There are fields of unwanted metric bikes just rotting away. I could never understand why, with all that speed, futuristic engineering, and superior handling why they end up rusting away in the sun. I know some here feel they were worth what people spent on them. Maybe watching your money fade in to nothingness is some peoples idea of money well spent, but I just don't see it.,,


The thing about the sport bikes is that every one wants the latest and greatest. As a result the older bikes are less desireable until they become collector's items(usually about 20-25 years). With Harleys it doesn't matter because they all have 40-50 year old tracter tech. So a 20 year old bike will have similar tech to one that's 10 years old.

And Harley still wouldn't be able to build a bike as technologically advanced as a Honda NR750 today. Despite the fact that it is over 20 years old. And I don't know of many Harleys that would fetch what a Nr750 would in terms of price.


Yea, that tractor tech sure is low with rollerbearing ended rods, helical cut gears, that you really can shift reasonably easy without the clutch, sequential fuel injection, cylinder drop out to control heat and meet engine demands, anti-lock brakes and throttle by wire. That's some antique [censored] there.

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#3400713 - 06/18/14 03:53 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: 29662]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 26
Loc: mississippi
Originally Posted By: 29662
The v-rod engine was designed by Porsche if I remember correctly so your statement is moot. Harley is a marketing machine that most other companies hope to emulate. Their build uality is subpar compared to many of the Metric bikes as evidenced by the FACT that they are perennially at the bottom of reliability ratings. Their succes is due more to to a subculture than the design or quality of their bikes.

As a side note Harley riders ride the fewest number of average miles per year of any major brand. Hard to rack up miles when you just go to bike night and bar hopping.lol...


Not everone can fit into that sub culture. Fairly dangerous place sometimes. We understand that.

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#3400715 - 06/18/14 03:54 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: 29662]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 26
Loc: mississippi
Originally Posted By: 29662
The v-rod engine was designed by Porsche if I remember correctly so your statement is moot. Harley is a marketing machine that most other companies hope to emulate. Their build uality is subpar compared to many of the Metric bikes as evidenced by the FACT that they are perennially at the bottom of reliability ratings. Their succes is due more to to a subculture than the design or quality of their bikes.

As a side note Harley riders ride the fewest number of average miles per year of any major brand. Hard to rack up miles when you just go to bike night and bar hopping.lol...


How many Harley rallies have you attended? Weekend riders..yea they exist.

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#3400724 - 06/18/14 04:12 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: RevRider]
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Posts: 192
Loc: sc/fl
I don't attend Harley rallies. I don't associate with "those" kinds of people. ROFLMAO!!!

Yeah pushrods and air cooling are real cutting edge, as is fuel injection.


Edited by 29662 (06/18/14 04:27 PM)

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#3400751 - 06/18/14 05:01 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: 29662]
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Registered: 02/23/12
Posts: 56
Loc: FL
Originally Posted By: 29662
The v-rod engine was designed by Porsche if I remember correctly so your statement is moot. Harley is a marketing machine that most other companies hope to emulate. Their build uality is subpar compared to many of the Metric bikes as evidenced by the FACT that they are perennially at the bottom of reliability ratings. Their succes is due more to to a subculture than the design or quality of their bikes.

As a side note Harley riders ride the fewest number of average miles per year of any major brand. Hard to rack up miles when you just go to bike night and bar hopping.lol...


Vrod was co-designed with Porsche. Just like the ZR1 Corvette was co-deigned with Lotus and built by Mercury Marine. So your point is moot. Lots of companies out source design or part of their manufacturing. I've had more problems with my Honda's than any of my bikes. Most of my Harley friends ride 20k or more each year. But so do my Goldwing friends. If you don't like Harleys then don't ride one. Why try and run down someone else ride?

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#3401045 - 06/18/14 10:10 PM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: dr2152]
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Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 26
Loc: mississippi
Over 500,000 bikers at two well known spots in the country a year can't be wrong. Guess all those weekend runs to the Ryans Buffet were just warm ups for the long ride to Sturgis or Daytona.

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#3401217 - 06/19/14 06:46 AM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: RevRider]
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Registered: 08/11/11
Posts: 566
Loc: n.c.
Us posers would NEVER eat at Ryans....we drive our Beemers to Ruths Chris. We wouldn't want our Harleys dropped by the valets.

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#3401292 - 06/19/14 08:43 AM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: xl2006]
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Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 3795
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: xl2006
Over 500,000 bikers at two well known spots in the country a year can't be wrong. Guess all those weekend runs to the Ryans Buffet were just warm ups for the long ride to Sturgis or Daytona.


And how many people actually RIDE there? I suspect most TRAILER the bikes there!
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#3401320 - 06/19/14 09:06 AM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: RevRider]
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Registered: 08/11/11
Posts: 566
Loc: n.c.
I've ridden twice to bike week in Daytona, in 92 and 93. Around 1,500 miles each trip with side trips to Jacksonville, Cape Canaveral and my brothers house in Kissimmee when he lived in Florida. I have the tee shirts to prove it..LOL! Not one problem with our Harleys either trip. Some trailer they're bikes but MOST ride them. In late February take a ride down south to say...Brunswick,Ga and get a nice spot along I95 and take note of the number of Harleys being ridden to Daytona vs being trailered, then get back to me.

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#3401397 - 06/19/14 10:29 AM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: gman2304]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 26
Loc: mississippi
And now we're going electric...So much for that john deere tech.

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#3401399 - 06/19/14 10:30 AM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: Jarlaxle]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 26
Loc: mississippi
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: xl2006
Over 500,000 bikers at two well known spots in the country a year can't be wrong. Guess all those weekend runs to the Ryans Buffet were just warm ups for the long ride to Sturgis or Daytona.


And how many people actually RIDE there? I suspect most TRAILER the bikes there!


Wrong answer.

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#3401417 - 06/19/14 11:03 AM Re: Harley Davidson Owners w/100,000 Miles on Bike [Re: 29662]
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Registered: 04/10/05
Posts: 442
Loc: Middle Tennessee
Originally Posted By: 29662
The v-rod engine was designed by Porsche if I remember correctly so your statement is moot. Harley is a marketing machine that most other companies hope to emulate. Their build uality is subpar compared to many of the Metric bikes as evidenced by the FACT that they are perennially at the bottom of reliability ratings. Their succes is due more to to a subculture than the design or quality of their bikes.

As a side note Harley riders ride the fewest number of average miles per year of any major brand. Hard to rack up miles when you just go to bike night and bar hopping.lol...


Yeah right. I guess all those Harleys I see going down the interstate wern't included in your statement.

I see more Harleys than all the other brands together on the interstate. You are just a hater, haters gotta hate.
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