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#3376897 - 05/20/14 08:57 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: GSCJR]
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 27831
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Our supplier is charging $13.95/L for the M1 0w-40. We are paying $7.00/L regardless of grade for the eni. The eni just went up in price, we were paying $6.00/L.

FYI, eni is formerly AGIP and I have been using their engine oil for years without any issues to report at this time.



That's revolting. You can walk into Canadian Tire or Walmart and buy it for less than that!

I was paying around $8/L, so a whopping buck more than you are paying for Eni/AGIP. With that kind of difference, I'd go M1.

You should be able to get it for a lot less than you are being quoted. When your "supplier" is charging you more than retail at CT, you've got issues, LOL! That'd be like one of my wholesalers trying to sell me a Cisco switch at MSRP, LMAO! grin
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#3376907 - 05/20/14 09:02 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: lim]
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Registered: 01/20/13
Posts: 771
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Garak, they have done so already. If you click on the link in my OP you will see the specs once you scroll down the page. There are a couple of Fiat specs just to name a few.


Edited by GSCJR (05/20/14 09:13 PM)
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#3376917 - 05/20/14 09:11 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 01/20/13
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Our supplier is charging $13.95/L for the M1 0w-40. We are paying $7.00/L regardless of grade for the eni. The eni just went up in price, we were paying $6.00/L.

FYI, eni is formerly AGIP and I have been using their engine oil for years without any issues to report at this time.



That's revolting. You can walk into Canadian Tire or Walmart and buy it for less than that!

I was paying around $8/L, so a whopping buck more than you are paying for Eni/AGIP. With that kind of difference, I'd go M1.

You should be able to get it for a lot less than you are being quoted. When your "supplier" is charging you more than retail at CT, you've got issues, LOL! That'd be like one of my wholesalers trying to sell me a Cisco switch at MSRP, LMAO! grin


I agree with you however, I do not have the authority to switch suppliers. Also, I don't have to be out of pocket by shopping at CT or WW.

FYI, I have definitely never seen 0w-40 at WW. CT maybe?
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#3376948 - 05/20/14 09:57 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: GSCJR]
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 27831
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Our supplier is charging $13.95/L for the M1 0w-40. We are paying $7.00/L regardless of grade for the eni. The eni just went up in price, we were paying $6.00/L.

FYI, eni is formerly AGIP and I have been using their engine oil for years without any issues to report at this time.



That's revolting. You can walk into Canadian Tire or Walmart and buy it for less than that!

I was paying around $8/L, so a whopping buck more than you are paying for Eni/AGIP. With that kind of difference, I'd go M1.

You should be able to get it for a lot less than you are being quoted. When your "supplier" is charging you more than retail at CT, you've got issues, LOL! That'd be like one of my wholesalers trying to sell me a Cisco switch at MSRP, LMAO! grin


I agree with you however, I do not have the authority to switch suppliers. Also, I don't have to be out of pocket by shopping at CT or WW.

FYI, I have definitely never seen 0w-40 at WW. CT maybe?


Only some WM's carry it.
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#3377557 - 05/21/14 04:48 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: GSCJR]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: GSCJR
Garak, they have done so already.

Nice. A few extra options are always helpful.
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#3399744 - 06/17/14 12:16 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: GSCJR]
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 2992
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You have a catch-22 here.

BMW says: "LL-04 for the N51 engine only in Europe".
But eni only makes a 5W40 in LL-01, and two different 5W-30 in LL04, as i-Sint is their European lineup and there both can go into the N51 engine.

If you digg deeper, eni even recommends i-Sint Tech 0W30 in the N52 USA in another Finder, which is high-SAPS and would correspond to LL-01 FE, but the oil is not certified by BMW.


(If the Chrysler oil happens to be FIAT 9.55535-G1: That would be eni i-Sint Tech F 5W30, despite the Ford certification. Also missing on this list: Agip Racing 10W60 and Agip Tecsint SX 0W40, both PAO-based)

Nothing wrong with sticking with the i-Sint 5W40 (I use it myself in one of my cars and it's great. 4K now and still golden in color, going for an OCI of 10K), but if you know that you're using high-quality fuel, I'd go for the i-Sint 5W30, as (according to this list) it's PAO-based, while the i-Sint 5W40 is a Group III oil.


Edited by tommygunn (06/17/14 12:19 PM)

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#3400103 - 06/17/14 08:40 PM Re: eni i-Sint MS 5W-40 (001022) [Re: GSCJR]
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 2992
Loc: usa
Update:

eni i-Sint MS 5W40 works for the 1.4L Turbo Dodge Dart.
eni Tecsint 0W40 for the Dodge V12.
American Agip PC 0W20 or 5W20 in all other Chryslers, RAMs and Dodges (Fiat calls the 5W20 for the 3.6 Pentastar 9.55535-CR3).

And as far as the RAM 1500 Ecodiesel is concerned: ""The manufacturer recommends engine oils that meet the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-11106, and that are approved to Fiat 9.55535-S1 or Fiat 9.55535-S3 and ACEA C3."

Which is a bit wishy-washy as S1 is an ACEA C2 oil. But my guess is that eni i-Sint MS 5W30 (which is ACEA C3) will get the S3 certification when the 2014 generation of Multijet diesels hits Europe.


Edited by tommygunn (06/17/14 08:42 PM)

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