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#3400387 - 06/18/14 08:20 AM Re: Old model tires that are still made [Re: 01rangerxl]
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Oh, and 01rangerxl,

It's clear you have an alignment problem. That's the first thing about the photo that jumped out at me.

Yes, I know it's within specs, but long ago I determined that the published specs are way too wide (with a few exceptions) - and as a general rule, the alignment needs to be within the inner half of the tolerance.

Susceptibility to mis-alignment is something tire manufacturers have been working on for as long as I can remember. Simple grooves and ribs are the least susceptible and complex patterns more so, but there are ways to have a tread pattern that is good for snow traction AND resistant to irregular wear. But as a general rule, All Terrain tires are more susceptible than All Season tires.

You really ought to get a quick alignment. Nothing fancy, but you'll get more mileage out of that set and I think it will pay for itself in the extended life.
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#3400399 - 06/18/14 08:44 AM Re: Old model tires that are still made [Re: 01rangerxl]
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
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Loc: Onondaga County
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Goodyear Wrangler Radial. My truck is wearing a set, along with half the other Rangers/Explorers around here, many C1500s and pre-97 F-150s, and Cherokees. I don't think this tire has changed much if at all since the early '80s...they still have "RADIAL" proudly written on the sidewall.

They are sold in one size, 235/75R15. That's it. Still a hot seller at Wal-Mart and even the local Goodyear store.

Noisy after half the tread is gone, terrible in rain, and squishy feeling in turns, but they get the job done. Actually not the worst treadlife out of the tires that have been on this truck...it ate up the OE Continental ContiTracs in 20K miles. The Wrangler Radials are at 26K, but are getting loud and sketchy in rain. Still not at the wear bars though.


Pic taken at around 13K miles, after a rotation, hence the feathering/cupping on the rear. Alignment on this truck is not totally compatible with old school A/Ts, but is in spec and tracks very straight. It just does this to these tires after a while. Rotated again a couple weeks ago.


I remember those came on Jeeps in the early 90s! I have a factory YJ Wrangler spare with one.
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#3400424 - 06/18/14 09:17 AM Re: Old model tires that are still made [Re: CapriRacer]
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Originally Posted By: CapriRacer


tire molds wear out. The lettering and the crisp edges become blurred. At some point in time they would need to be refurbished or replaced -





That's probably why my new "Paws" don't say DOMINION ROYAL on them. wink2
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#3400907 - 06/18/14 07:51 PM Re: Old model tires that are still made [Re: CapriRacer]
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Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 8787
Loc: Birmingham, AL
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
Oh, and 01rangerxl,

It's clear you have an alignment problem. That's the first thing about the photo that jumped out at me.

Yes, I know it's within specs, but long ago I determined that the published specs are way too wide (with a few exceptions) - and as a general rule, the alignment needs to be within the inner half of the tolerance.

Susceptibility to mis-alignment is something tire manufacturers have been working on for as long as I can remember. Simple grooves and ribs are the least susceptible and complex patterns more so, but there are ways to have a tread pattern that is good for snow traction AND resistant to irregular wear. But as a general rule, All Terrain tires are more susceptible than All Season tires.

You really ought to get a quick alignment. Nothing fancy, but you'll get more mileage out of that set and I think it will pay for itself in the extended life.


It probably could be aligned better, but given how straight it tracks and how good the handling is, I am hesitant to have someone mess around with it to eek a few more miles out of the cheap tires, and quick alignments might be part of its tire appetite. This truck has been aligned three times in its life by two different shops (one a dealer), and has never passed 35K or so on a set of tires. These will make it that far. Worst life was 20K on the factory tires. I may get it checked to see where it's at, but I'm not holding my breath for someone to get the alignment just right to where the truck will run a set of tires for 50K miles.
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