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#3398930 - 06/16/14 12:53 PM Age
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 2138
Loc: S California
I have a car with Michelin Destiny tires that will soon hit 10 years old. The car is always garaged and the car is almost never left out in the sun and has never seen snow. There is 80% of the tread left with very low mileage. I'm just wondering about the general rule to replace tires at 10 years of age. The dealer won't rotate and balance them after 10 years based on the date stamp on the tires. Would you keep the tires or buy new ones?
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#3398934 - 06/16/14 12:57 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 5425
Loc: New York
I'd keep on driving on them especially since the car has been garaged.

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#3398947 - 06/16/14 01:09 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 230
Loc: Nebraska USA rural
+1 Take it to an independent shop for balancing and rotation, or just keep running them till they wear out

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#3398948 - 06/16/14 01:09 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Registered: 10/30/02
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Loc: Michigan
I'd replace them. If your consciousness permits, you could sell them on craigslist.
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#3398950 - 06/16/14 01:10 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
Andy636 Offline


Registered: 12/30/10
Posts: 427
Loc: Romania
A good rule of thumb is 6 year.

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#3398955 - 06/16/14 01:19 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
Wolf359 Offline


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 541
Loc: MA
What's the general condition of the tires? No dry rot or cracking anywhere? How much do you value your life? Even a $400 set of tires over 10 years works out to about $40 a year. The general rule of thumb was to replace them after 6 years but if they were in good condition, maybe 9-10. Even if you don't see exterior wear, things could be breaking down on the inside.

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#3398958 - 06/16/14 01:25 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Registered: 01/04/11
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Loc: Nebraska USA rural
How is this car used? when it is used that is, as obviously it doesn't get many miles on it. Is it high speed freeway or mostly slow speed and city type driving? If High speed, I might think, notice I said think, about replacing them. Otherwise unless they are looking like a lot of sidewall or even tread cracking, I would not even consider wasting my money on new tires. Or if you do, I'd like to buy them. I have 10 year old tires on my 65 mustang with 80+ % tread on them, and they have no signs of age, and I drive on the highway every weekend in the summer, no worries.

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#3398959 - 06/16/14 01:25 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 6630
Loc: USA
Toss up.

If you get a blow out going 65MPH+ is this a dangerous vehicle(SUV) at that speed or something controllable?
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#3398960 - 06/16/14 01:25 PM Re: Age [Re: Wolf359]
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 2616
Loc: SF Bay Area
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
What's the general condition of the tires? No dry rot or cracking anywhere? How much do you value your life? Even a $400 set of tires over 10 years works out to about $40 a year. The general rule of thumb was to replace them after 6 years but if they were in good condition, maybe 9-10. Even if you don't see exterior wear, things could be breaking down on the inside.

Not just that. Grip will go down as the rubber hardens (even garaged and in perfect storage conditions), and that degradation won't be visible. Now if it was stored in a sealed chamber where it was flushed out with nitrogen after every drive, then maybe it might still be in good condition.

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#3398964 - 06/16/14 01:33 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
ARCOgraphite Offline


Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 8747
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.

Also interested to know what the car is. I really hope Its not a Fraud Exploder with broken shackles and sagged rear springs ? smile
I Have 15Y.O. MXV on my mother's '89 caddy and they will be staying there. ALWAYS in the cool garage, < 7 K miles.

BTW, The grip on my newish hankook ventus V2 185r55-16 cheapies for the Honda is non-existent. Highly NOT recommended.
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#3398969 - 06/16/14 01:40 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 25083
Loc: ME
Keep 'em. I have my original 1995 spare pushed into service on my F150. It sat in relative darkness under the bed all these years. Looks great.


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#3398970 - 06/16/14 01:41 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
IndyIan Offline


Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 5895
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I would go for a rip in the rain, or on a cool morning if this car can't get wet. If the tires still grip decently then I would assume the tire structure is still good as well.
I've run ancient R-compound tires that held together right to the cords, so I think a tire stored in nearly ideal conditions can be structurally safe.
But if $5-6-700 is peanuts to you, then by all means get some decent new rubber, the higher performance categories have made huge gains tread life and incredible grip in the last few years.
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#3398971 - 06/16/14 01:42 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
Win Offline


Registered: 02/05/03
Posts: 3487
Loc: Arkansas
The OEM Pirelli tires on my '04 Jaguar are now approaching 11 years of age (So is the OEM battery).

I've had it since new, always garaged, blah, and they still look good, are in balance, and quiet, at 37K miles.

That said, it makes me more nervous every year, but we don't drive the car much, and when we do, it's not driven over 70, or on really hot days, etc.
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#3399012 - 06/16/14 02:34 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 34703
Loc: New Jersey
I'd be more and more nervous as time goes on, but I'd not be out to condemn them immediately. I have snows that are verging on 10 years, work fine, and only get hot in a heat wave. They only see outdoors in the winter and are kept well otherwise. Still, oxidation takes its toll on tires and I'd be considerate of deterioration and oxidation rom the inside and other such things.

I'd be looking for a deal, but if it were Black Friday or later, if to be horribly concerned unless grip seemed to be a concern.

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#3399014 - 06/16/14 02:35 PM Re: Age [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15688
Loc: Sunny Florida
This story is real.

I have a lot full of trucks. Last year I found two perfect never used spare tires and decided to use them. Never thought twice about it.

Put one on a van, Bridgestone load range E tire 10 ply rated. It lasted two weeks and blew out badly damaging the entire wheel well and quarter panel.

Cost of repairs was over 300 bucks, AND I had to buy a new tire!

IMO old tires are suitable as a spare only...
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