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#3389480 - 06/05/14 08:12 AM Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil
badtlc Offline


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by reducing wear, friction, oxidation and extending oil life. They test and names names while doing it:

Lubegard site

Their testing specifically calls out improvements when used with Pennzoil, Quaker state, Havoline, Castrol and Mobil 1. There is also an independent test at the bottom.


Edited by badtlc (06/05/14 08:14 AM)
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#3389489 - 06/05/14 08:17 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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M1 does not recommend any additives to their oil. Here is the link.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx
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#3389491 - 06/05/14 08:19 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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How old is this page/content?

The bottles they picture haven't been sold for decades. Maybe they should re-test it against modern API SN oils.



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#3389493 - 06/05/14 08:22 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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It doesn't show SN oil compatibility. It lists many others but SN is conspicuously missing. I wouldn't consider adding anything to my oil.
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#3389495 - 06/05/14 08:25 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: tig1]
badtlc Offline


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Originally Posted By: tig1
M1 does not recommend any additives to their oil. Here is the link.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx




The former head of Mobil's lubrication research group is the brains behind the technology.

http://www.lubegard.com/LXE.aspx
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#3389497 - 06/05/14 08:28 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: johnachak]
badtlc Offline


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Originally Posted By: johnachak
It doesn't show SN oil compatibility. It lists many others but SN is conspicuously missing. I wouldn't consider adding anything to my oil.


The site says "ALL including..." The data sheet didn't show anything past SL but they had updated the site for API SM. There is nothing drastically different with API SN. This type of product doesn't really interact with the additives anyway. It shouldn't matter what API level of oil you are talking about.
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#3389502 - 06/05/14 08:33 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: johnachak
It doesn't show SN oil compatibility. It lists many others but SN is conspicuously missing. I wouldn't consider adding anything to my oil.


The site says "ALL including..." The data sheet didn't show anything past SL but they had updated the site for API SM. There is nothing drastically different with API SN. This type of product doesn't really interact with the additives anyway. It shouldn't matter what API level of oil you are talking about.


There's an additive we both agree on. Cheers2 Good luck convincing the anti-additive crowd that it has any value though. smile popcorn2
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#3389518 - 06/05/14 08:51 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
tig1 Offline


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Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1
M1 does not recommend any additives to their oil. Here is the link.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx




The former head of Mobil's lubrication research group is the brains behind the technology.

http://www.lubegard.com/LXE.aspx


That doesn't change anything. M1 still doesn't recommend using any additive to their product.


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx
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#3389523 - 06/05/14 08:54 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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I am not knocking LubeGard products and I have used them with good success...or should I say, no issues!

And though I think that LubeGard products have their place, they are now in 2014, not really needed as much as they were over a decade ago...or longer!

IIRC, ILI started out with ATF products and moved into other areas of additives for P/S, Diff's, Engines, and more ATF Suppliments. They're ATF Suppliments/Additives were originaly designed for tranny shops to help reduce cost by not having to stock so many OE Specific ATFs.

IMHO, they're products may be the best in their catigory but for most of us and the newer the vehicles get, are just not as relivent anylonger.
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#3389585 - 06/05/14 10:11 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: demarpaint]
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I got Lubegard Bio-Tech with PYB in my '98 Saturn SC2 right now. PO put only Generic Bulk Oil in it before.

After I put it in, I could feel the engine "free up" & rev more easily & freely.

The Oil is BLACK after only 1K miles!!

There's some serious cleaning going on... banana
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#3389595 - 06/05/14 10:30 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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I sincerely doubt that this additive adds anything useful that is not in a good oil already. This is a good example of the "If some is good, more is better, and too much is just right!" philosophy of homegrown engineering.

It may be somewhat useful for a specific problem, but what that problem is, and how Lubegard will make is better is anyone's guess.

The only thing I add to oil, ever, is Redline break in additive, in old tech engines (And Briggs&Stratton motors) that may need the extra ZDDP. Even then, only an ounce per quart.

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#3389668 - 06/05/14 11:33 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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#3389725 - 06/05/14 12:23 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Here we go again... Of course we all know that oil manufacturers are only going to put the best additives and absolutely everything else that is needed into a quart of our PCMO... they don't do anything that is profit driven in the motor oil industry!

(turn sarcasm off now) smile
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#3389796 - 06/05/14 01:54 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: tig1]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7369
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1
M1 does not recommend any additives to their oil. Here is the link.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx




The former head of Mobil's lubrication research group is the brains behind the technology.

http://www.lubegard.com/LXE.aspx


That doesn't change anything. M1 still doesn't recommend using any additive to their product.


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx



Come on.

Does any lubricant bottler suggest using oil additives in their products?
Of course not.

I can say with a straight face and without a doubt that I've had very good results in almost every engine using a different branded product,however I don't feel this product is required in new engines.
I'm not knocking lubegard and I'm confident that libricant manufacturers don't always make the best product they can.
They formulate it to a price point to meet minimum specifications as required by the oem.
Can they make a better product,of that I'm sure,but will the public bear the extra cost,probably not.
We can build a better mouse trap but to what cost,especially when the standard mousetrap is good enough,and cheap enough that the buying public doesn't care.
Besides in most cases the engine outlasts the vehicle it's placed in even with less than basic maintenance.
Let's concentrate in making the rest of the car last as long as the engine
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#3389811 - 06/05/14 02:09 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Is Lubregard (liquid wax ester) at least similar in principle to Prolong (chlorinated paraffin) ???
Where is MolaKule when you need him.?
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#3389901 - 06/05/14 03:52 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: Clevy]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 9854
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1
M1 does not recommend any additives to their oil. Here is the link.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx




The former head of Mobil's lubrication research group is the brains behind the technology.

http://www.lubegard.com/LXE.aspx


That doesn't change anything. M1 still doesn't recommend using any additive to their product.


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Using_Oil_Stabilizers.aspx



Come on.

Does any lubricant bottler suggest using oil additives in their products?
Of course not.

I can say with a straight face and without a doubt that I've had very good results in almost every engine using a different branded product,however I don't feel this product is required in new engines.
I'm not knocking lubegard and I'm confident that libricant manufacturers don't always make the best product they can.
They formulate it to a price point to meet minimum specifications as required by the oem.
Can they make a better product,of that I'm sure,but will the public bear the extra cost,probably not.
We can build a better mouse trap but to what cost,especially when the standard mousetrap is good enough,and cheap enough that the buying public doesn't care.
Besides in most cases the engine outlasts the vehicle it's placed in even with less than basic maintenance.
Let's concentrate in making the rest of the car last as long as the engine


You have it backwards. Of course no one will suggest adding something to their oil. If you read the M1 link I provided M1 says additives can upset the formular itself and do not add anything to their oil. My 36 year history using M1 oils has proven to me nothing needs to be added to their product. However some other brands may need this product.
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#3389921 - 06/05/14 04:05 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: tig1]
badtlc Offline


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Originally Posted By: tig1


You have it backwards. Of course no one will suggest adding something to their oil. If you read the M1 link I provided M1 says additives can upset the formular itself and do not add anything to their oil. My 36 year history using M1 oils has proven to me nothing needs to be added to their product. However some other brands may need this product.


So you think Mobil hires idiots for the director of lubrication research positions?
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#3389959 - 06/05/14 04:36 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1


You have it backwards. Of course no one will suggest adding something to their oil. If you read the M1 link I provided M1 says additives can upset the formular itself and do not add anything to their oil. My 36 year history using M1 oils has proven to me nothing needs to be added to their product. However some other brands may need this product.


So you think Mobil hires idiots for the director of lubrication research positions?



And Lubegard can research, test, formulate, market, distribute, finance, and produce a product that dramatically improves lubrication and sell said product at a very low cost to the consumer while remaining profitable.
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#3390036 - 06/05/14 06:24 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: FetchFar]
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Originally Posted By: FetchFar
Is Lubregard (liquid wax ester) at least similar in principle to Prolong (chlorinated paraffin) ???
Where is MolaKule when you need him.?


He's hiding in his crzy La-BORE-a-tory. cool


The liquid wax esters are esters synthesized from rapeseed acids and special alcohols.

They appear to have four advantages:

1. Aid in friction reduction,
2. have low-level anti-wear capabilities
3. aid in cleaning
4. are very stable in terms of resisting hydrolytic degradation.
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#3390340 - 06/06/14 04:41 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: dave1251]
demarpaint Offline


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Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1


You have it backwards. Of course no one will suggest adding something to their oil. If you read the M1 link I provided M1 says additives can upset the formular itself and do not add anything to their oil. My 36 year history using M1 oils has proven to me nothing needs to be added to their product. However some other brands may need this product.


So you think Mobil hires idiots for the director of lubrication research positions?



And Lubegard can research, test, formulate, market, distribute, finance, and produce a product that dramatically improves lubrication and sell said product at a very low cost to the consumer while remaining profitable.


Why not? I'm sure that's all factored into the price just like any other company selling a product for a profit.
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#3390367 - 06/06/14 06:12 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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liquid wax ester ?sound a lot like methyl ester,(the bio part in diesel)don't put too much ester anywhere.if you keep it to less the 1% (preferably 0.5 %)and you should be fine.but I tend to agree with mobil.it shouldn't be needed ,the only exeption is the season change ,like from winter to summer or the summer to winter (twice a year)when temperature stay in the minus or when the temp stay in the plus it might be a good idea to put something like this product ,but every week ?nope ,I don't think you need this every week
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#3390576 - 06/06/14 10:49 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: demarpaint]
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Because according to some responses here Lubegard is above making a profit. The sole purpose is to improve lubricants.
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#3390659 - 06/06/14 12:29 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
tig1 Offline


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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1


You have it backwards. Of course no one will suggest adding something to their oil. If you read the M1 link I provided M1 says additives can upset the formular itself and do not add anything to their oil. My 36 year history using M1 oils has proven to me nothing needs to be added to their product. However some other brands may need this product.


So you think Mobil hires idiots for the director of lubrication research positions?


So you didn't read the article. no-no Dr. Landis is a former employee of XM. Former.


With that said I'm sure he is very knowledgeable in his field. Creating new products to sell.


Edited by tig1 (06/06/14 12:31 PM)
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#3390919 - 06/06/14 05:31 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: yvon_la]
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Originally Posted By: yvon_la
...liquid wax ester ?sound a lot like methyl ester,...


Nope, two entirely different esters.
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#3392788 - 06/09/14 08:02 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: tig1]
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Originally Posted By: tig1

So you didn't read the article. no-no Dr. Landis is a former employee of XM. Former.


With that said I'm sure he is very knowledgeable in his field. Creating new products to sell.


I don't think that makes the point you want it to make. But good try!
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#3393921 - 06/10/14 11:42 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Fascinating stuff, never looked at it before. LubeGard makes good stuff, how much is this? I pay 12 bucks for Lubegard Red for my trannies and at those extended intervals believe it is worth it.

Oh and I found it hilarious (and believable) that Lucas made the oil WORSE! LOL
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#3394005 - 06/10/14 01:29 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: KCJeep]
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The one thing I can say for sure about Lubegard products is that their Lubegard Power Steering Supplement worked for me. Now some here are going to demand scientific proof. I can't provide scientific proof. I don't own a multi-million dollar chemical company. All I know is that Lubegard product stopped a power steering unit from squealing in cold weather. It stopped the problem immediately. That was proof enough for me.

I have used Lubegard Biotech Engine Oil Supplement. It seemed to me that it improved engine performance. Again, some will demand scientific proof. I don't have scientific proof. Just my personal experience which is good enough for me.

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#3394252 - 06/10/14 07:09 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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mystic, the end result is what is important. who needs scientific proof!
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#3394257 - 06/10/14 07:13 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: boxcartommie22]
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Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
mystic, the end result is what is important. who needs scientific proof!


Now that's a loaded question. Read through these threads you'll find out in short order if you haven't done so already. LOL j/k you already know..........
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#3394611 - 06/11/14 08:05 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Those not gullible enough to fall for the hand on the manifold claim. Those people?

Or the "it was like my car was on sport mode....where less application means more output. Let me tell you i put it in sport mode.....could not keep the tires planted!!!!" claim.

Don't know why the same two bring up this "scientific proof" claim. Especially as those two are the only ones who bring it up.


Edited by Trajan (06/11/14 08:07 AM)
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#3397035 - 06/13/14 10:16 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: MolaKule]
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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The liquid wax esters are esters synthesized from rapeseed acids and special alcohols.


I'm really surprised rapeseed and alcohols didn't get censored on BITOG.

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#3397036 - 06/13/14 10:18 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Originally Posted By: badtlc

Their testing specifically calls out improvements when used with Pennzoil, Quaker state, Havoline, Castrol and Mobil 1. There is also an independent test at the bottom.


Didn't they use Timken machine?

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#3405091 - 06/23/14 10:46 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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I've used Lubegard transmission treatments with success. I was getting an intermittent "solenoid A" fault code. Every time the "A" solenoid got stuck ( always on a cold start), I'd get rock hard shifts, until I stopped and restarted the engine. A can of Lubegard friction modifier and a can of transmission protector and 500 miles later, smoother shifts and the "A" solenoid has yet to get stuck again. It would seem, that, in this instance, the snake oil did what it was supposed to do. If they know what they're doing with their trans additives, they might actually know what they're doing with the rest of their product line.

To me, additives are like holistic medicine compared to conventional medicine.. Sometimes you just need to change your diet and take your vitamins.( the right additive for a specific, minor problem). and sometimes you need a surgeon ( in the case of your car, a mechanic and money). :-)

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#3405094 - 06/23/14 10:53 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
Clevy Offline


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Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: tig1

So you didn't read the article. no-no Dr. Landis is a former employee of XM. Former.


With that said I'm sure he is very knowledgeable in his field. Creating new products to sell.


I don't think that makes the point you want it to make. But good try!





Hehehe.


Well molekule has said a mouthful in his post.

Where do I find this stuff in Canada. Considering the benefits as molekule describes them I can get on board here.
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#3405773 - 06/24/14 05:52 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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When you buy the quart bottle on Amazon, with free shipping, it comes out MUCH less expensive per ounce than going into a NAPA and buying the 15 ounce size off the shelf, and paying tax (in the U.S. at least wink ).
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#3406122 - 06/24/14 11:44 PM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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We sell a lot of the the Bio-tech at out shop. Some of our clients even put this in their performance drag/race vehicles. The owner of our shop is a huge lubegard fanatic, I think he drinks the stuff....lol
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#3406143 - 06/25/14 12:19 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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Registered: 01/28/14
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We provide UOA's at our shop and I'm pretty sure they are all saved somewhere on our computer system which means I may be able to pull up and print or scan some of the reports so I can post some them with the consent from the customers of course.

I have heard that most of the UOA's with the bio-tech added to the oil came back with astounding numbers and our customers have been very pleased with the results. I will do my best to get these UOA's posted if I'm able.
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#3406173 - 06/25/14 01:21 AM Re: Lubegard Engine Oil Protectant improves oil [Re: badtlc]
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^^ I'd be interested in seeing the reports, if you get the OK.
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