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#3378912 - 05/23/14 04:13 AM Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts
asand1 Offline


Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 693
Loc: Oregon coast
My motor mounts were really bad, so
I went to the wrecking yard in Coos Bay and picked up a set of AT motor mounts for $20.00 and stripped them of all original bushing material. I then filled them with 4 tubes of LOCTITE PL S40 polyurethane window, door & siding at $7.99 each.

[url="http://s146.photobucket.com/user/asandberg6/media/96%20MAXIMA/ATmounts1_zps16561e1d.jpg.html"][/url]



Tje jig I put together to locate everything while fulling and curing.


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#3378913 - 05/23/14 04:16 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
asand1 Offline


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I then filed them and waited 4 months for curing through and through.




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#3378914 - 05/23/14 04:19 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
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Registered: 12/16/12
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Loc: Oregon coast
There is a quite measurable improvement over the old mounts. Still spongy, but the engine doesn't knock around when shifting, or goosing the throttle in gear.

Front mount driver side view.
[url="http://s146.photobucket.com/user/asandberg6/media/96%20MAXIMA/installed2_zpsd13bf30c.jpg.html"][/url]

Front mount passenger side view.
[url="http://s146.photobucket.com/user/asandberg6/media/96%20MAXIMA/installed1_zps713ceb2f.jpg.html"][/url]

Rear mount driver side view.
[url="http://s146.photobucket.com/user/asandberg6/media/96%20MAXIMA/installed3_zpsfba95d51.jpg.html"][/url]


Old mounts were in better shape than the wrecking yard mounts. Perfect for filling gaps with construction adhesive wink
[url="http://s146.photobucket.com/user/asandberg6/media/96%20MAXIMA/oldmounts_zps527dcb5f.jpg.html"][/url]
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#3378915 - 05/23/14 04:20 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
asand1 Offline


Registered: 12/16/12
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Loc: Oregon coast
Pictured below are my OE MT motor mounts. Like the AT mounts, they are fluid filled. The electronic mount is actually not an electrorheological fluid, like many believe. It simply has a servo motor that adjusts fluid damping like an adjustable shock to decrease vibration at idle.

I have cut away rubber on these two to drain fluid and fill with Locktite PL Premium construction adhesive.

You can see the rear mount on the right has a good sized cavity on the bottom that was fluid filled. I believe this was the cause of my movement.

I just need to clean these up and fill them when I have some spare cash. I will run the white mounts as long as They keep working before I swap these in, but in about three months these should be done and on stand-by.

[url="http://s146.photobucket.com/user/asandberg6/media/96%20MAXIMA/oldmountscut_zps8fab166a.jpg.html"][/url]




Edited by asand1 (05/23/14 04:33 AM)
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#3378919 - 05/23/14 04:40 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
asand1 Offline


Registered: 12/16/12
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Loc: Oregon coast
Before anyone tries to flame me for being cheap, this was an attempt to solve the problem of a [censored] design. Stock motor mounts are too soft for my liking, and replacement mounts are known to fail within months of installation.

My goal here was to make a semi-solid mount that would never break down and allow movement.
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#3378928 - 05/23/14 05:20 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 23535
Loc: ME
So you lived with a rocking motor for four months?

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#3378934 - 05/23/14 05:23 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
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You sir are a legend...thanks for posting.

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#3378938 - 05/23/14 05:31 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: Shannow]
asand1 Offline


Registered: 12/16/12
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Loc: Oregon coast
Originally Posted By: Shannow
You sir are a legend...thanks for posting.
Thank you.

Originally Posted By: eljefino
So you lived with a rocking motor for four months?


I lived with a rocking motor for 5 years, because my mounts were shot, despite outwardly looking good. But If your asking if I drove without mounts for 4 months, no. I modded wrecking yard mounts for zero downtime.
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#3378943 - 05/23/14 05:45 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
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Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 3142
Loc: Texas
So, on rockauto there aren't any decent motor mounts for this car?
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#3378952 - 05/23/14 06:01 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: JustinH]
asand1 Offline


Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 693
Loc: Oregon coast
Originally Posted By: JustinH
So, on rockauto there aren't any decent motor mounts for this car?


No decent ones according to reviews on Maxima.ORG, and OEM are insanely priced. The design relies on hydraulics and valving rather than just ample rubber to locate and isolate the engine. Its a poor design in my opinion, and one that cannot be cheaply replicated with any kind of quality.


Edited by asand1 (05/23/14 06:05 AM)
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#3378959 - 05/23/14 06:20 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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Loc: Rochester NY
I have never seen anyone do this. Well Done Sir!
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#3378964 - 05/23/14 06:26 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: Char Baby]
asand1 Offline


Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 693
Loc: Oregon coast
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
I have never seen anyone do this. Well Done Sir!


3M window weld is the superior product as far as caulk goes, but Mcmaster Carr and energy suspension has a pourable 2 part molding polyurethane. This is a popular mod for the Honda tuners.
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#3379008 - 05/23/14 07:45 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: eljefino]
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Loc: Onondaga County
Originally Posted By: eljefino
So you lived with a rocking motor for four months?


I'm going on 2 years for the Focus ...
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#3379012 - 05/23/14 07:52 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
IndyIan Offline


Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 5358
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Good work! I've been debating/procrastinating upgrading the torque mount in my Focus for a year now. It looks fine but allows a little too much engine movement for my taste. I should call the wreckers and get a used mount and try filling it as well.
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#3379041 - 05/23/14 08:26 AM Re: Cheap DIY urethane motor mounts [Re: asand1]
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Registered: 11/23/03
Posts: 1438
Loc: Vancouver, WA
The PT Cruiser goes through motor mounts like crazy. I have seen people on the PT forums fill in the oem mounts with stuff like this. Good job!
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