BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40

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Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Why not just stick with dealer 5w30 for your intermediate changes? You may also avoid consumption issues due to flipping back and forth.

I'm assuming your vehicle is NOT on the new 10k/yr OCI?


My vehicle is in the 10k/yr OCI category.

Is there a comsumption issue with M1 0W-40 vs. Castrol 0W-40?
 
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Why not just stick with dealer 5w30 for your intermediate changes? You may also avoid consumption issues due to flipping back and forth.

I'm assuming your vehicle is NOT on the new 10k/yr OCI?


My vehicle is in the 10k/yr OCI category.

Is there a comsumption issue with M1 0W-40 vs. Castrol 0W-40?


I don't know about the Castrol, but the M1 0w-40 is the lowest in terms of consumption in my M5. 1L/10,000Km.
 
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Why not just stick with dealer 5w30 for your intermediate changes? You may also avoid consumption issues due to flipping back and forth.

I'm assuming your vehicle is NOT on the new 10k/yr OCI?


My vehicle is in the 10k/yr OCI category.

Is there a comsumption issue with M1 0W-40 vs. Castrol 0W-40?


Some people get consumption when they constantly change brands. For example my old 330 would consume some oil when I switched oil on my between dealer changes but my 335d does not. The dealer oil is inexpensive as well. You'll also get a chance to build rapport with the Service Dept.
 
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Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
...dealer changes but my 335d does not. The dealer oil is inexpensive as well. You'll also get a chance to build rapport with the Service Dept.


Dealer oil inexpensive? I've never seen any dealer, especially BMW ones, to offer oil cheap per quart. Official BMW bottles cost $11 each at dealer ("stealer") and Mobil1 0w-40 is $7 per quart at Walmart.
 
Originally Posted By: FetchFar
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
...dealer changes but my 335d does not. The dealer oil is inexpensive as well. You'll also get a chance to build rapport with the Service Dept.


Dealer oil inexpensive? I've never seen any dealer, especially BMW ones, to offer oil cheap per quart. Official BMW bottles cost $11 each at dealer ("stealer") and Mobil1 0w-40 is $7 per quart at Walmart.
LOL...my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

Dealer oil is $8.95 in my neck of the woods.
 
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

You can order online with free ship-to-store. $25/5qt jug.

But M1 0w-40 does not meet LL-04 spec, so that's not something for a 335d anyway.
 
I know my parts guy already.

The dealership's approach is multiply the price of anything you buy from parts X 2.

$21 BMW OEM oil filter on line = $42 BMW OEM oil filter at the dealership

So I'm sure the $7.25 quart of genuine BMW 5W-30 would be $14.50 there.

Parts and service continue to be profit centers no matter what brand vehicle you are driving.

The dealer is a few miles down the road anyway.

I'm going to stick with the oil offerings at Wallyworld or Advanced Auto/Autozone/O'Reilly.
 
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
[/quote] LOL...my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

Dealer oil is $8.95 in my neck of the woods.


I'm surprised, yet it makes sense for a dealer to get customers in their for oil changes with the bait of reasonably priced oil. Sure some GM/Ford/Chrysler dealers offer quick oil change services to lure you in, yet the expensive-car dealerships out there rarely give many breaks.
 
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I know my parts guy already.

The dealership's approach is multiply the price of anything you buy from parts X 2.

$21 BMW OEM oil filter on line = $42 BMW OEM oil filter at the dealership

So I'm sure the $7.25 quart of genuine BMW 5W-30 would be $14.50 there.

Parts and service continue to be profit centers no matter what brand vehicle you are driving.

The dealer is a few miles down the road anyway.

I'm going to stick with the oil offerings at Wallyworld or Advanced Auto/Autozone/O'Reilly.


Strangely, not always.
Recently I looked for different parts and fluids, and after doing my research on the net ( ebay and some more specialised european cars web site), I called the parts departemenf of a BMW dealership.

For most of the parts, yes, internet is cheaper (except in my case when shipping to Canada gets expensive, but that is not your case), but for some other, the dealer was just few bucks more, and getting the parts right away, it was the right choice to get it from the dealer.

From memory, it was the new blue gas cap and the Pentosin CHF-11S fluid for the power steering.

All the filters, oil, air and cabin, I bought from a Canadian website, dealer was at least double the price.
 
Originally Posted By: FetchFar
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
LOL...my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

Dealer oil is $8.95 in my neck of the woods.


I'm surprised, yet it makes sense for a dealer to get customers in their for oil changes with the bait of reasonably priced oil. Sure some GM/Ford/Chrysler dealers offer quick oil change services to lure you in, yet the expensive-car dealerships out there rarely give many breaks.

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Most customers who get their oil changed at the dealer or oil change shops don't know the price of oil. They just know how much the oil change and 50 pt inspection package cost.
 
My BMW dealer gives me 15% off of true MSRP on parts and 20% off parts and labor in the service department. Best of all, they do excellent work.
 
Originally Posted By: MCompact
My BMW dealer gives me 15% off of true MSRP on parts and 20% off parts and labor in the service department. Best of all, they do excellent work.


It certainly isn't the guy in Louisville.....
 
They never miss an opportunity to bone me.....

You must be related or work there to get the friends and family treatment.
 
You're right that they do good work.

And there are a couple of great folks on the sales side.

I'm glad you're getting the customer care you deserve.
 
I applaud SilverC6 for voting with his wallet. I'm no fan of Castrol OR Mobil, but for different reasons.

Having said that, I think they both offer excellent products, I just choose to spend my money elsewhere.
 
Originally Posted By: MCompact
My BMW dealer gives me 15% off of true MSRP on parts and 20% off parts and labor in the service department. Best of all, they do excellent work.

Any Costco member can get 15% off at participating dealers for parts and labor so anyone paying full price should look into this. I just walk into my MINI dealer and ask for the Costco discount and they know. I am a member though and went through the steps online to get the "coupon" for the first couple times.
 
I can't really see how a Costco discount would work at the BMW dealer.

Don't think they are "participating."

But BMW could invite some monkeys from the zoo over to work on your car and match price, I guess.
 
Even more confusion - BMW have recently introduced a new oil spec: LL-14 FE+
Presumably the 14 refer to the year of origination, I believe the FE stands for fuel economy.
As far as I know, there is only one manufacturer that meets this new spec; strange as the the engine for which it is designed has been in production for a few years now.

Regards, lim
 
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