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#3371705 - 05/14/14 05:48 PM Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip?
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
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Loc: Colorado Springs
Does anyone know if any of the big name brands make a conventional 75w-90 that does not have the limited slip additive? Valvoline used to but now it has the limited slip stuff. Thanks!

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#3371708 - 05/14/14 05:50 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
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What is the reason you do not want the limited slip additive?
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#3371714 - 05/14/14 05:54 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
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For use in a manual transmission.

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#3371719 - 05/14/14 05:58 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
KD0AXS Offline


Registered: 11/13/12
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I've got some Shell Spirax HD 80W-90. Doesn't say anything about LS on thebot tle, so I'm guessing it doesn't have the friction modifier.


http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC_X_cbe_26680_key_140003389066_200912102033.pdf
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#3371724 - 05/14/14 06:03 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
Drew99GT Offline


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I need 75w-90 for cold climates.

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#3371734 - 05/14/14 06:12 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
KD0AXS Offline


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Can you even get a conventional 75W-90? I've only seen it in synthetic.

How about Amsoil 75W-90 manual trans fluid?

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/tr...ar-lube-75w-90/
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#3371747 - 05/14/14 06:20 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
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No 75w-90's in conventional form come to mind. However, Pennzoil has a syn 75w-90 GL-4. The product data sheet mentions it as an ideal fluid for manual gear boxes and does not mention LS additives.

Meanwhile their product data sheet for the syn 75w-90 GL-5 states it's ideal for LS diffs and has a LS additive.

Last I checked, both fluids are on Amazon. But the 75w-90 GL-4 listing has an incorrect product description. They copy and pasted the info from the GL-5 product.

Here's the product sheets if your interested:
http://www.pennzoil.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Pennzoil+Synthetic+75S-90+GL-4+GL-5+ALL.pdf

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#3371796 - 05/14/14 07:03 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
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I have some conventional Valvoline 75w-90 in my stash. It's not marked LS, and I bought it in 2012. The Forester has it in the manual transaxle and rear diff. No problems in 18,000 miles!
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#3371846 - 05/14/14 07:44 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Bandito440]
Wheel Offline


Registered: 12/22/11
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Loc: Upstate NY
[How about Subaru Extra-S ? It's a 75w-90, and one of a few that works safely in their manual transmissions. It is also a GL-5 rated fluid.


Edited by Wheel (05/14/14 07:47 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling

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#3372003 - 05/14/14 10:27 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Bandito440]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
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Originally Posted By: Bandito440
I have some conventional Valvoline 75w-90 in my stash. It's not marked LS, and I bought it in 2012. The Forester has it in the manual transaxle and rear diff. No problems in 18,000 miles!


That is what I've been using on my Corolla; it's been the best fluid I've used. Synthetic 75w-90, even GL-4s have been notchy. I'm apprehensive about using Valvoline anymore since it now contains limited slip friction modifier!

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#3372097 - 05/15/14 12:11 AM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
Garak Offline


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Mobil Delvac 75w-90 is, of course, synthetic, but is not marketed for limited slip and meets GL-5 and MT-1.
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#3372540 - 05/15/14 01:57 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
i812 Offline


Registered: 06/18/10
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Loc: Central, FL
Eneos comes to mind in which I have seen at NAPA stores. Only issue its synthetic. Eneos GL-5 75W-90


Edited by i812 (05/15/14 02:00 PM)
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#3372654 - 05/15/14 04:13 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
You can probably get it from a Ford dealer. They require you add the LS additive separately so you know the stuff they sell doesn't have it.
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#3372980 - 05/16/14 02:29 AM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
Whitewolf Offline


Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 1984
Loc: MI, USA
Try gmpowertrain.com for a list of all the major approved products. GM part #88863089.
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#3373686 - 05/16/14 09:24 PM Re: Conventional 75w-90 non limited slip? [Re: Drew99GT]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
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Loc: South Texas,USA
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Synthetic 75w-90, even GL-4s have been notchy.


Interesting. I wonder if dino GL4`s will give smoother shifting over synth GL4`s? I have a case of Pennzoil Gear Plus 80W90 GL4 that I`ve never tried.
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