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#3372537 - 05/15/14 01:54 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
ARCOgraphite Offline


Registered: 05/17/09
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My Japanese-built Honda is purported to be the most reliable made, and Ive had multiple recalls including valvesprings that break and trash the engine to PW sw incinerating the interior, etc. Seen 2013 Nissan Pathdfinders with control arms falling off and loss of steering, Subarus with disintregrating Ej and FB engines, A giant pile of replaced rotted-out Toyota truck frames at my Toyota dealer, you name it recalls and major TSB - everywhere!

GM ain't what it was in the 50's, 60's and 80's but my rented Malibu (2011) slaughters a Camry as a driver.
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#3372580 - 05/15/14 02:56 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: ARCOgraphite]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4263
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
My Japanese-built Honda is purported to be the most reliable made, and Ive had multiple recalls including valvesprings that break and trash the engine to PW sw incinerating the interior, etc. Seen 2013 Nissan Pathdfinders with control arms falling off and loss of steering, Subarus with disintregrating Ej and FB engines, A giant pile of replaced rotted-out Toyota truck frames at my Toyota dealer, you name it recalls and major TSB - everywhere!

GM ain't what it was in the 50's, 60's and 80's but my rented Malibu (2011) slaughters a Camry as a driver.



+1000 Arco.

Toyota and Honda can recall millions of vehicles, but it won't register with the fan base. The moment GM recalls their cars, it's proof they're making junk.
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#3372588 - 05/15/14 03:07 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: KrisZ]
rjundi Offline


Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 6233
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: KrisZ



+1000 Arco.

Toyota and Honda can recall millions of vehicles, but it won't register with the fan base. The moment GM recalls their cars, it's proof they're making junk.


It is all perception and GM is not as good at it but learning. Not always the product.
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#3372612 - 05/15/14 03:36 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
RF Overlord Offline


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I think the GM ignition switch recall was stupid...people caused their own problems by hanging 20 lbs of junk from the key ring.
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#3372617 - 05/15/14 03:41 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
millerbl00 Offline


Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 643
Loc: Louisiana
As a manufacturer you have to over design to take into account real world situtions. They are cutting the specs too close to save a penny.


Edited by millerbl00 (05/15/14 03:42 PM)

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#3372618 - 05/15/14 03:47 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
Zaedock Offline


Registered: 09/10/05
Posts: 3808
Loc: Massachusetts
Yikes, another recall on our Malibu.

The brake light thing happened to us a couple of years ago. My whole family had a wedding shower and afterwards my mother followed us home. She said the brakes lights were stuck on for half the ride.

I ended up pulling ALL the rear bulbs and cleaning the connections and installing all new bulbs. The connectors looked all burnt. They get VERY hot.

I hope the official recall letters come soon.
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#3372637 - 05/15/14 04:04 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: bepperb]
hattaresguy Offline


Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 5059
Loc: CT
Originally Posted By: bepperb
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
So pretty much like Toyota.


Kinda, but with lower resale value.

Seriously, though, the recalls on our cars have been absurd. I know there was a fatality, but redesigned floor mat clips? (Which by the way wouldn't have held the third party mat in that incident anyway) I imagine some of these GM recalls are similarly pointless, but necessary due to the current media frenzy.

Several hundred complaints does seem high, though.


Yep my moms Rav4 has had a number of dumb recalls and stupid things that should not have broken.

The intermediate shaft like in the GM trucks clunked and the Toyota dealer refused to replace it under warranty without a fight, should have been a recall.

The water pump is now failing should have been a recall.

Oh and now some cross member under the rear suspension is being recalled for rust.

Everyone puts Toyota up on a pedestal but they break just like everything else.

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#3372646 - 05/15/14 04:09 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
millerbl00 Offline


Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 643
Loc: Louisiana
finally a realistic opinion

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#3372656 - 05/15/14 04:13 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: KrisZ]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 14785
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
My Japanese-built Honda is purported to be the most reliable made, and Ive had multiple recalls including valvesprings that break and trash the engine to PW sw incinerating the interior, etc. Seen 2013 Nissan Pathdfinders with control arms falling off and loss of steering, Subarus with disintregrating Ej and FB engines, A giant pile of replaced rotted-out Toyota truck frames at my Toyota dealer, you name it recalls and major TSB - everywhere!

GM ain't what it was in the 50's, 60's and 80's but my rented Malibu (2011) slaughters a Camry as a driver.



+1000 Arco.

Toyota and Honda can recall millions of vehicles, but it won't register with the fan base. The moment GM recalls their cars, it's proof they're making junk.



Completely accurate and reasonable. High volume means a LOT of cars and trucks. Then factor in the bean counters wanting cheep-cheep-cheaper parts, now see what you get?

Every car mfgr has exactly the same issues, just most of them aren't selling so many cars...
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#3372667 - 05/15/14 04:28 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: ChevyBadger]
copcarguy Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 47
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: ChevyBadger
GM is making it hard to be a fan, may have to move onto Ford

After being a GM family for decades, we moved over to the blue oval in the 1970's and have never regretted that decision.

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#3372756 - 05/15/14 06:34 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
Barkleymut Offline


Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 2431
Loc: Richmond, VA
My wife just told me about a co worker that was on their way to Hatteras last weekend. They pull over to get gas and thought it was odd that they went thru a whole tank on a 4 hour all highway drive. Guy pulls up behind them and says ya'll are leaking all kinds of fuel, I've been behind you for a couple of miles. They are 100 miles from the nearest HONDA dealer. They had just gotten a letter about the recall but figured it could wait. Had the Odyssey towed 100 miles, dealer says we don't have the parts for the recall yet and offer no rental or anything. Family continued on to their vacation and on the way home they stop by the dealership. Car still isn't ready. They drive 3 more hours home in a rental. Drove back yesterday to pick up the Odyssey that they plan to trade in on any brand but a Honda, mainly because my wife told them about the service we got from a local Ford dealer when our Explorer's thermostat went out at 37k. (1k more than warranty). There was no recall but there was a TSB. Dealer offered without asking to tow/repair same day for ZERO charge. And oh yeah, we didn't buy the car from this Ford dealer. Guess who we bought our next Ford from?
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#3372924 - 05/15/14 11:01 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: RF Overlord]
SlipperyPete Offline


Registered: 09/20/12
Posts: 325
Loc: Missouri (MO)
Originally Posted By: RF Overlord
I think the GM ignition switch recall was stupid...people caused their own problems by hanging 20 lbs of junk from the key ring.


Why is it only happening with GM cars? Don't people who drive other brands have other stuff on their key rings too?

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#3372964 - 05/15/14 11:59 PM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: tenderloin]
GenSan Offline


Registered: 04/27/10
Posts: 548
Loc: WV
Good for GM!

The manufacturer with the most documented technical service bulletins: LINK.

The manufacturer with the most documented recalls: LINK.

In short, if you attribute a quality vehicle with the least amount of recalls you should be looking at a Merkur or Yugo and least number of TSB's, Alfa Romeo.

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#3373032 - 05/16/14 07:02 AM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: KrisZ]
Bamaro Offline


Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 1081
Loc: Balto.
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
My Japanese-built Honda is purported to be the most reliable made, and Ive had multiple recalls including valvesprings that break and trash the engine to PW sw incinerating the interior, etc. Seen 2013 Nissan Pathdfinders with control arms falling off and loss of steering, Subarus with disintregrating Ej and FB engines, A giant pile of replaced rotted-out Toyota truck frames at my Toyota dealer, you name it recalls and major TSB - everywhere!

GM ain't what it was in the 50's, 60's and 80's but my rented Malibu (2011) slaughters a Camry as a driver.



+1000 Arco.

Toyota and Honda can recall millions of vehicles, but it won't register with the fan base. The moment GM recalls their cars, it's proof they're making junk.

True, perception is everything:

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#3373075 - 05/16/14 08:12 AM Re: 5/15 New 2.7 Million Vehicle GM Recall [Re: GenSan]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 14785
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: GenSan
Good for GM!

The manufacturer with the most documented technical service bulletins: LINK.

The manufacturer with the most documented recalls: LINK.

In short, if you attribute a quality vehicle with the least amount of recalls you should be looking at a Merkur or Yugo and least number of TSB's, Alfa Romeo.



Haha! Great post!

By that logic the Alfa is your BEST deal, guys...
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