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#3365148 - 05/08/14 02:08 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
SuzukiGoat Offline


Registered: 02/04/13
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Loc: Louisiana
Just a heads up, my glock 19 has been with me for seven years.

In the winter I shoulder carry, the rest of the time...waist clipped.

Very thin for what it is... and 17+1 with a g17 mag.
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#3368356 - 05/11/14 08:52 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
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Registered: 03/29/10
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Basically, glock needs to finally produce the single stack 9 version of the .380 they have promised.

Then I think every major manufacturer will have one out and people can have their pick of the litter.
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#3369705 - 05/12/14 06:27 PM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
alternety Offline


Registered: 01/15/09
Posts: 148
Loc: Pacific NW
I suggest looking at Boberg Arms. Check out their web site and forum. You can talk to the owner/designer. Their "shorty" is a pocket sized 7+1 9mm. They are just starting deliveries on a .45 version.

Much reduced felt recoil. Eats +P. It is pricey. Tritium sights option.

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#3369752 - 05/12/14 07:36 PM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: alternety]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 3132
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: alternety
I suggest looking at Boberg Arms. It is pricey.


Yup, you got that right.

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#3369814 - 05/12/14 08:42 PM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
whip Offline


Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 1845
Loc: ohio
What's the fascination with the odd ball guns for carry? If I'm using a gun every day, I'd want something that I could find parts and accessories easily for.
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#3371243 - 05/14/14 08:18 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: jcwit]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 12327
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: jcwit
I know its not single stack, but while you're in the gun shop check out the SCCY CPX 2, dbl stack and 11 rounds counting the one in the tube.


I should have added here they sell for $239.00. Just bought the 2nd one today.


How much have you shot it? I've looked at the CPX-2 before, but not with too much seriousness. But the more I look at it, the more I like it.

It says the trigger is 9 pounds, double action only. That sounds slightly heavy; my Kel-Tec has a 6 pound trigger. Is it still pretty easy to stay on target with that heavier trigger? And is it a true double action only, with second strike capability? My Kel-Tec is "double action", meaning that it does pull the hammer back and release it with the trigger pull, but the slide half-cocks the hammer, and the trigger can only pull the hammer back from that half-cocked position. If a round doesn't fire, you cannot strike a second time because the slide wouldn't have cycled.

Thanks.
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#3371249 - 05/14/14 08:25 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
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Never mind...found this...looks like the hammer on the CPX-2 does sit at full rest, cycles with the trigger, and there is second strike capability.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-carry-guns/178084-sccy-cpx-2-9mm-review.html
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#3371351 - 05/14/14 10:52 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: Hokiefyd]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
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Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: jcwit
I know its not single stack, but while you're in the gun shop check out the SCCY CPX 2, dbl stack and 11 rounds counting the one in the tube.


I should have added here they sell for $239.00. Just bought the 2nd one today.


How much have you shot it? I've looked at the CPX-2 before, but not with too much seriousness. But the more I look at it, the more I like it.

It says the trigger is 9 pounds, double action only. That sounds slightly heavy; my Kel-Tec has a 6 pound trigger. Is it still pretty easy to stay on target with that heavier trigger? And is it a true double action only, with second strike capability? My Kel-Tec is "double action", meaning that it does pull the hammer back and release it with the trigger pull, but the slide half-cocks the hammer, and the trigger can only pull the hammer back from that half-cocked position. If a round doesn't fire, you cannot strike a second time because the slide wouldn't have cycled.

Thanks.


At present I have over 400 rounds thru my SCCY.

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#3371401 - 05/14/14 11:33 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 12327
Loc: North Carolina
Thanks. Any other subjective feedback? Comments on fit-and-finish? Do you like the trigger? Easy to stay on target? Does it carry well in holsters you can buy OTS for other similarly-sized guns? I appreciate your thoughts on it.
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#3371527 - 05/14/14 02:15 PM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
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Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3185
Loc: Far North East Texas
If you're looking at the double-stack magazine SCCY CPX2, you might also want to look at the Kel-Tec P11. Kel-Tec's original model, you can now get 12 round flush fit magazines for them, and I would expect quality/reliability/accuracy to be at least the equal of the SCCY.
(Probably better- there, I said it. Seems to be very fashionable to bash the Kel Tecs these days, especially by those who have no experience with them. I say Horse Hockey on that. Virtually all the lower cost options out there may need a little "fluff & buff" &/or break-in. The P11 has been made for almost 20 yrs now.)
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#3371720 - 05/14/14 05:59 PM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: UncleS2]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 3132
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: UncleS2
If you're looking at the double-stack magazine SCCY CPX2, you might also want to look at the Kel-Tec P11. Kel-Tec's original model, you can now get 12 round flush fit magazines for them, and I would expect quality/reliability/accuracy to be at least the equal of the SCCY.
(Probably better- there, I said it. Seems to be very fashionable to bash the Kel Tecs these days, especially by those who have no experience with them. I say Horse Hockey on that. Virtually all the lower cost options out there may need a little "fluff & buff" &/or break-in. The P11 has been made for almost 20 yrs now.)


Right up front I'll admit I have NO experience with Kel Tecs what so ever.

But do they have a No Question's Asked warranty like the SCCY have that goes with the gun, not just for the 1st owner.

Might take note of what the guy that designed the SCCY is also capable of.

The main point about the SCCY Firearms is the quality of materials that is used in the manufacturing much better than any other firearm in the minimal price range and that was the goal of the man who designed the firearm, He also designed the first heart stint that is working now in 1,000's of hearts across America this moment as well as the machine that grinds the glass lenses for the 1 hour eyeglass businesses, In other words this guy knew what He was doing.

Ya, they had growing pains, especially with the designer/partner having a bout with cancer shortly after bringing out the 1st gen. of pistols. He survived and took over the company again.


Edited by jcwit (05/14/14 06:03 PM)

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#3372164 - 05/15/14 06:03 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 12327
Loc: North Carolina
I own a Kel-Tec (a P-32) and it's been very reliable for me. My dad also has a P-32 and it's been great for him. I really like the Kel-Tec pistols and have been looking at PF-9s and P-11s.

But SCCY's build and material quality looks to be excellent (materials certainly look better than K-T) and I love the forever warranty. K-T has a good warranty, but it applies only to the first owner. My P-32 is used, so I really don't have a warranty on it. That's a consideration as I look at the used gun market for a PF-9 or a P-11. Having said that, K-T has an excellent service department, where parts are available inexpensively and easily, straight from their website. Does one really need a warranty on a gun these days? I don't know.

I can buy a new SCCY for the same as or less than a used K-T.

But does the "you get what you pay for" adage apply here? SCCY looks to be the real deal, but I can't get the inexpensive price out of the back of my mind. I'd really like to try one.

Anyone in or around North Carolina have a SCCY CPX-2 who would like to join me at the range some time? smile
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#3372165 - 05/15/14 06:06 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: UncleS2]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 12327
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: UncleS2
...the Kel-Tec P11. Kel-Tec's original model, you can now get 12 round flush fit magazines for them...


Is K-T offering these 12-rounders, or are they aftermarket? The P-11 is on my short list as well, though I prefer the slightly lighter trigger of the PF-9. I wonder if I can find a trigger kit for the P-11. I wouldn't want to lighten it too much, but I understand the stock trigger is VERY heavy.

My K-T P-32 has a long 6 pound trigger. But it's a very SMOOTH trigger, and the length and weight of the pull seems very appropriate for the type of gun it is (pocket carry).
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#3372684 - 05/15/14 04:46 PM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: SF0059]
UncleS2 Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3185
Loc: Far North East Texas
The 12-round magazines are made by the same company that makes the Kel-Tec "factory" 10-round magazine- Meggar, IIRC. Both 10s & 12s are currenty listed for sale on the Kel-Tec website.
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#3373021 - 05/16/14 06:37 AM Re: Single Stack 9mm for Concealed Carry [Re: UncleS2]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 12327
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: UncleS2
The 12-round magazines are made by the same company that makes the Kel-Tec "factory" 10-round magazine- Meggar, IIRC.


Oh, okay; that would be "Mec-Gar". They make the P-32 magazines as well.

http://www.mec-gar.com/

Thanks for the info.
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