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#3379152 - 05/23/14 10:29 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 07/21/02
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My BMW dealer gives me 15% off of true MSRP on parts and 20% off parts and labor in the service department. Best of all, they do excellent work.
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#3379208 - 05/23/14 11:40 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: MCompact]
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Originally Posted By: MCompact
My BMW dealer gives me 15% off of true MSRP on parts and 20% off parts and labor in the service department. Best of all, they do excellent work.


It certainly isn't the guy in Louisville.....
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#3379279 - 05/23/14 01:13 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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It is, actually...
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#3379701 - 05/23/14 11:38 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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They never miss an opportunity to bone me.....

You must be related or work there to get the friends and family treatment.
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#3379722 - 05/24/14 12:13 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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I'm not an employee or relative, just another customer...
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#3379728 - 05/24/14 12:32 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: MCompact]
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You're right that they do good work.

And there are a couple of great folks on the sales side.

I'm glad you're getting the customer care you deserve.
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#3379833 - 05/24/14 07:59 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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I applaud SilverC6 for voting with his wallet. I'm no fan of Castrol OR Mobil, but for different reasons.

Having said that, I think they both offer excellent products, I just choose to spend my money elsewhere.
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#3379879 - 05/24/14 09:16 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: MCompact]
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Registered: 01/01/13
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Originally Posted By: MCompact
My BMW dealer gives me 15% off of true MSRP on parts and 20% off parts and labor in the service department. Best of all, they do excellent work.

Any Costco member can get 15% off at participating dealers for parts and labor so anyone paying full price should look into this. I just walk into my MINI dealer and ask for the Costco discount and they know. I am a member though and went through the steps online to get the "coupon" for the first couple times.
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#3380301 - 05/24/14 08:53 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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I can't really see how a Costco discount would work at the BMW dealer.

Don't think they are "participating."

But BMW could invite some monkeys from the zoo over to work on your car and match price, I guess.
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#3380507 - 05/25/14 04:49 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 04/17/14
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Loc: Hampshire, England
Even more confusion - BMW have recently introduced a new oil spec: LL-14 FE+
Presumably the 14 refer to the year of origination, I believe the FE stands for fuel economy.
As far as I know, there is only one manufacturer that meets this new spec; strange as the the engine for which it is designed has been in production for a few years now.

Regards, lim


Edited by lim (05/25/14 04:50 AM)

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#3380576 - 05/25/14 07:30 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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BMW has had an FE spec for over a decade (LL-01 FE). I guess this LL-14 FE is an updated version of it.
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#3380825 - 05/25/14 01:09 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: Quattro Pete]
lim Offline


Registered: 04/17/14
Posts: 22
Loc: Hampshire, England
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
BMW has had an FE spec for over a decade (LL-01 FE). I guess this LL-14 FE is an updated version of it.


True, but I doubt that this latest spec will have the same backwards compatibility as 04, 01, 98 and Spezial. It seems to be much more than a simple update.


Edited by lim (05/25/14 01:09 PM)

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#3381100 - 05/25/14 08:11 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 01/01/13
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Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I can't really see how a Costco discount would work at the BMW dealer.

Don't think they are "participating."

But BMW could invite some monkeys from the zoo over to work on your car and match price, I guess.

Obviously, you're not a member then...or you're not using all of the benefits. Just because you can't "see" it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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#3381113 - 05/25/14 08:26 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: LotI]
SilverC6 Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
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Loc: Southeast
Originally Posted By: LotI
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I can't really see how a Costco discount would work at the BMW dealer.

Don't think they are "participating."

But BMW could invite some monkeys from the zoo over to work on your car and match price, I guess.

Obviously, you're not a member then...or you're not using all of the benefits. Just because you can't "see" it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


My apologies after re-reading your post.

No Costco in my town so I am not a member.

There is a SAM's here and they did, a few years back, have some affiliated car dealerships that displayed new cars at the club.
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#3402290 - 06/20/14 02:08 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: lim]
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Registered: 07/03/11
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Loc: TX
LL-04 is not backwards compatible with LL-01 in the US.

Originally Posted By: lim
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
BMW has had an FE spec for over a decade (LL-01 FE). I guess this LL-14 FE is an updated version of it.


True, but I doubt that this latest spec will have the same backwards compatibility as 04, 01, 98 and Spezial. It seems to be much more than a simple update.

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