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#3365920 - 05/08/14 07:15 PM Bugatti required oil
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In case you ever wondered about the "required" oil for $1.5 to $3.0 million Bugatti.

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#3365925 - 05/08/14 07:19 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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Registered: 11/29/08
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At that price it should have a built in UOA system.

Regards, JC.

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#3365937 - 05/08/14 07:36 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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A band aid for engine design problems?
That's why BMW recommended this oil for some M5s.
I wonder how it would do on a 0W-20 in the hands of a Florida plastic surgeon we don't hear much from anymore?
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#3365980 - 05/08/14 08:15 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: fdcg27]
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
A band aid for engine design problems?
That's why BMW recommended this oil for some M5s.


Highly unlikely. This engine produces so much heat that the first time they ran the prototype on the test stand at full power (1001 HP) it nearly burned the building down. The building's ventilation and exhaust system could not handle the heat and the ductwork started melting. VW probably spec'd this oil as an extra measure of protection.
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#3366033 - 05/08/14 08:58 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: fdcg27]
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
A band aid for engine design problems?
That's why BMW recommended this oil for some M5s.
I wonder how it would do on a 0W-20 in the hands of a Florida plastic surgeon we don't hear much from anymore?


Erm.

You do realise this is one of the most advanced cars ever produced.

And if a car with 1000 bhp has design problems do you really think a thicker oil will fix it?

Simply put.

It is a highly tuned quad turbo engine.

Why would they spec anything but the best oil which will give the best protection.
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#3366053 - 05/08/14 09:15 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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Yeah, the whole point of Bugatti was not to compromise.
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#3366096 - 05/08/14 09:46 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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oh come on guys,,, it's purely marketing. With so many Veyron oil changes taking place around the globe, Castrol is making a killing from the sale of this liquid band-aid. We all know that Castrol isn't even a oil company but just a 'blender' who mixes together stuff that they buy from other companies.

Heck, I bet Castrol pays Bugatti to put that sticker on there and gives the factory free product. And if any modern designer doesn't use 0W-20 then they're just not building a good engine. Heck, my Honda Civic thrives on 0W-20... if my Bugatti Veyron can't do the same then it shows that Honda is just a superior engine builder.

Yeah,, liquid band-aid.

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#3366106 - 05/08/14 09:58 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: FowVay]
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Originally Posted By: FowVay
oh come on guys,,, it's purely marketing. With so many Veyron oil changes taking place around the globe, Castrol is making a killing from the sale of this liquid band-aid. We all know that Castrol isn't even a oil company but just a 'blender' who mixes together stuff that they buy from other companies.

Heck, I bet Castrol pays Bugatti to put that sticker on there and gives the factory free product. And if any modern designer doesn't use 0W-20 then they're just not building a good engine. Heck, my Honda Civic thrives on 0W-20... if my Bugatti Veyron can't do the same then it shows that Honda is just a superior engine builder.

Yeah,, liquid band-aid.


Wow. Just...wow.
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#3366133 - 05/08/14 10:26 PM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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That's to funny, I'm glad someone on here has a sense of humor.

Like everything for that car I'd figure it's a custom blend, with a price to match!

I'm still more of a Pagani fan though.


Edited by hattaresguy (05/08/14 10:27 PM)

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#3366214 - 05/09/14 03:08 AM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: fdcg27]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
A band aid for engine design problems?
That's why BMW recommended this oil for some M5s.
I wonder how it would do on a 0W-20 in the hands of a Florida plastic surgeon we don't hear much from anymore?


They do run hot with all those turbos and there's a lot of torque going through those bearings, I wouldn't want to run a 0w20 that's for sure!

They recommend Castrol because VW own Bugatti, it's a VW engine and Castrol are the oil supplier to VAG.

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#3366215 - 05/09/14 03:10 AM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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Registered: 01/26/10
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Loc: England
I couldn't thumbs up your post, lol.

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#3366216 - 05/09/14 03:14 AM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: FowVay]
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Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 523
Loc: England
Heck, my Honda Civic thrives on 0W-20... if my Bugatti Veyron can't do the same then it shows that Honda is just a superior engine builder.

A Honda Civic is a lightly loaded granny wagon producing about 100hp

A Bugatti Veyron is a highly stressed, quad turbo W16 producing 1000hp

Notice the extra zero.

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#3366220 - 05/09/14 03:59 AM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
Mathson Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 73
Loc: North Europe
Yeah like number of horses you have under the hood has something to do with the viscosity of the oil.

Each engine of Boeing 777 has 110 000 hp and it's using oil that is 5 cSt at 100c as per D50TF1, class B.

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#3366288 - 05/09/14 07:27 AM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: G-MAN]
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buahhahhaha,, A GE90/100 or RR Trent 1000 does NOT produce 110,000 hp.. they produce a range of thrust between 90,000 - 110,000 lbs. This is NOT horsepower.

Jet turbine oil need not apply for a job in the Bugatti. haha...

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#3366319 - 05/09/14 07:58 AM Re: Bugatti required oil [Re: FowVay]
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Registered: 11/08/12
Posts: 668
Loc: Hawaii
I read somewhere that this car needs to have it's oil changed at the factory - in France. Yes, you do not change oil at the dealer or at the mansion. You crate it to France and they change the oil for you among other things. Correct me if I'm wrong to any Veyron owners out there.
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