PP 5w30, 7,537km, 2013 F150 EB, 16,221km Total

[gap599]

Here is the third UOA for my '13 F150 ecoboost. It looks like it is breaking in nicely. I plan to start extending my drain intervals to 9,000-10,000km now and see how it goes. It was refilled with PP and a motorcraft filter again.

Let me know your thoughts.

 

[bigt61]

Those EcoBoost engines are really hard on oil. Even 10k km on a quality synthetic might be pushing it. The poor guy who uses conventional oil and doesn't pay attention to maintenance is going to be on a 1st name basis with his Ford dealer service department manager. Blackstone needs to send you a Christmas card.

 

[Turk]

Way to go getting that initial FF full of metals outta there.

 

[millerbl00]

Those numbers seem kinda high, Here is my UOA on my 2012 silverado. 5500k on Pennzoil. Glad I stuck with the old iron block engine...


ALUMINUM 2
CHROMIUM 0
IRON 10
COPPER 2
LEAD 2
TIN 1
MOLYBDENUM 59
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 0
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 2
POTASSIUM 2
BORON 49
SILICON 15
SODIUM 5
CALCIUM 2156
MAGNESIUM 31
PHOSPHORUS 724
ZINC 822
BARIUM 0

INSOLUBLES 0.2
WATER 0
FLASHPOINT ºF 420
SUS VIS 210ºF 58.7
cSt @ 212ºF 9.84

 

[SLATRON]

Miller,
How many miles on the truck though?
this is a twin Turbo, direct ingection with only 16k miles, its a 3.5 V6 putting out 365hp & 420lb*ft while getting up to 21mpg on the highway.
looks okay to me, wear # coming down nicely

 

[gap599]

I dont think you can really compare wear numbers for 5.3 GMC to a 3.5EB Ford, apples to oranges isnt it?

I expect the numbers to drop a little more seeing as how the truck only has 16k km (10k mi) on it).

 

[millerbl00]

I hope the truck last you a long time but a twin Turbo, direct injection v6 would concern me for the long haul.

My wear #'s where lower than this duing my breakin.

 

[snowflake]

Originally Posted By: millerbl00
I hope the truck last you a long time but a twin Turbo, direct injection v6 would concern me for the long haul.

My wear #'s where lower than this duing my breakin.


because they're completely different engines.

 

[millerbl00]

So the new style engines should have more wear? I thought the newer innovations would bring lower cost and durability.

 

[snowflake]

Turbo's are inherently hard on oil and direct injection comes with increased fuel dilution.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: millerbl00
So the new style engines should have more wear? I thought the newer innovations would bring lower cost and durability.


You cannot determine rate of wear from a UOA.

 

[millerbl00]

Originally Posted By: SLATRON
Miller,
How many miles on the truck though?
this is a twin Turbo, direct ingection with only 16k miles, its a 3.5 V6 putting out 365hp & 420lb*ft while getting up to 21mpg on the highway.
looks okay to me, wear # coming down nicely


Not impressed with the new MPG numbers. I am getting 20 mpg city and 24 hwy.

 

[SLATRON]

Awesome, I was just pointing out the huge difference between engines, and I don't real life know EB mpg, as I don't own one, yet anyway

 

[snowflake]

Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Originally Posted By: SLATRON
Miller,
How many miles on the truck though?
this is a twin Turbo, direct ingection with only 16k miles, its a 3.5 V6 putting out 365hp & 420lb*ft while getting up to 21mpg on the highway.
looks okay to me, wear # coming down nicely


Not impressed with the new MPG numbers. I am getting 20 mpg city and 24 hwy.


that is a lot better than the 5.3 in the service truck I used to drive

 

[gap599]

I didnt post this UOA to start an argument over whose truck is better. Lets keep the discusion related to the UOA. Thanks.

 

[millerbl00]

Not saying mine is better. Just maybe mine is more stable because its proven technology.


No more comments....

thanks

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Not saying mine is better. Just maybe mine is more stable because its proven technology.


No more comments....

thanks



How is the Eco-boost unproven?
They look bulletproof thus far,in real life. Just like the LS engines have proven to be.

 

[millerbl00]

Not enough time or miles on Eco-boost yet. Old style has been around 20 years. Take a least 3 or 4 years and hundreds of miles to see long term problems.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: millerbl00
Not enough time or miles on Eco-boost yet. Old style has been around 20 years. Take a least 3 or 4 years and hundreds of miles to see long term problems.



I guess you missed the one they tortured and tore down.
Looked pretty good to me.


And hasn't it been 4 years since they came out. If there were problems I'm sure we'd have heard about them.

 

[SAJEFFC]

To the OP, thank you so much for posting this!! I too have a 2013 Ecoboost with about 13K miles on it. I haven't done a UOA yet but I do have a slight fuel smell on the dipstick all the time. Have always been a bit of an over maintainer since I work at a Ford dealer. I've been doing 3-4K changes on MC full synthetic 5W30 and have no problems. I do love this engine and truck, the low end torque is ADDICTING! All the naysayers just need to drive one....you'll see