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#3367947 - 05/10/14 08:35 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
MinamiKotaro Offline


Registered: 08/01/12
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Loc: TN
1) Add pack
2) MRV
3) HTHS
4) Viscosity @ 100C

and the wildcard:

Availability
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#3368207 - 05/11/14 05:23 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21098
Loc: NY
In the beginning of my Bitog days I was often swayed by oil that got hyped here for one reason or another. That can lead to changing brands often, and it can lead to some people who hoard oil scrambling to return their stash when the next latest and greatest Bitog favorite comes along.

I now use what I consider a high quality product, which is available everywhere I shop, and is on sale often. It makes life a whole lot easier. Until someone can prove to me a certain brand of oil can consistently extend engine life under any and all circumstances and in different car makes and models I'll be very interested in trying that product. Or if there's an outbreak of bad press about an oil or filter I'm using I'll make a change. For now it's back to the way I was before I was a Bitog member. I'm sticking with one brand for each of my vehicles, currently two oils from XOM and one from Havoline. I have no current plans on changing, at least in the near future.
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#3368248 - 05/11/14 06:44 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: demarpaint]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 14767
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
In the beginning of my Bitog days I was often swayed by oil that got hyped here for one reason or another. That can lead to changing brands often, and it can lead to some people who hoard oil scrambling to return their stash when the next latest and greatest Bitog favorite comes along.

I now use what I consider a high quality product, which is available everywhere I shop, and is on sale often. It makes life a whole lot easier. Until someone can prove to me a certain brand of oil can consistently extend engine life under any and all circumstances and in different car makes and models I'll be very interested in trying that product. Or if there's an outbreak of bad press about an oil or filter I'm using I'll make a change. For now it's back to the way I was before I was a Bitog member. I'm sticking with one brand for each of my vehicles, currently two oils from XOM and one from Havoline. I have no current plans on changing, at least in the near future.


Almost identical feelings here. I used to be a diehard Amsoil fan and had the outrageous engine life and performance to prove it.

Then I met BITOG and everything is now quite different. Buy most oil at the local Wal Mart and simply use a quality product as per the "buzz" heard here...
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#3368275 - 05/11/14 07:12 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
bustedknuckle Offline


Registered: 10/18/06
Posts: 4
Loc: South Carolina
1. Name brand, high mileage, on sale with filter. All my vehicles between 150K and 200K miles, I change every 3 months whether it needs it or not. I just like to get under the car and just makes me feel better.

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#3368385 - 05/11/14 09:15 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
Jaymus Offline


Registered: 05/11/07
Posts: 1245
Loc: Tennessee
I used to like Castrol GTX, and don't necessarily have anything against it, but while it did hold a 91 Dodge Stealth R/T NA 3.0 V6 DOHC 222 horsepower engine together under lots of abuse and many visits to 7300RPM, it didn't hold my highly modified twin turbo one together. Then again, I was ignorant with oil in 2004 and I didn't run synthetic oil in that beast. But, on the other hand, I ran it in my grandmother's 2000 Buick Park Avenue for a few years, only to see varnish on the inside and gain a leaking valve cover. I wasn't impressed with that.

It may have been around that time I started reading on this site. Either way, I choose my oils based on the vehicle and the UOA's I've seen on other similar engines.

I was using Pennzoil Platinum in all the 4.6 2v and 3v engines in my family. Still am, but will be watching UOA's on modular motors since Pennzoil went and changed everything up, again.

My 86 F150 5.0 EFI was also getting Castrol GTX 10W-30 and 10W-40 7 years ago. My first day of trying the magical Rotella T6 5W-40 gave me freer revving, both in neutral and under load. I kept that in there for a good 5 years straight. Just this passed winter I swapped it to Mobil1 0W-40, because I still wanted a 40 weight in it, still wanted higher zinc and phosphorous levels, but wanted something thinner to start up in the -5F to 10F cold mornings we were having.

Now, none of this means I'm right, it's just why I choose what I choose.
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#3368453 - 05/11/14 10:31 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 1947
Loc: sunny/rainy Mia, FL.
GTX held my 4G63 EVO VIII together for over 200k miles. But I didnt abuse it much , to be honest.
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#3369465 - 05/12/14 02:02 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
Roob Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 341
Loc: Ontario,Canada
Originally Posted By: wemay
What is the single most important factor in your oil purchase decision?



KV40.

No one would have guessed that though grin
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#3369485 - 05/12/14 02:24 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9461
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
- a VI as high as possible (that's retained in service).
- high AW additive levels.
- finally value.
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#3369771 - 05/12/14 07:56 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
TiredTrucker Offline


Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 985
Loc: Kellogg, IA
1) reputation
2) oil specs
3) cost benefit ratio (wholesale)
4) free delivery
5) special discounts

1+2+3+4+5=Schaeffer
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#3369870 - 05/12/14 09:29 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
maximus Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 246
Loc: TX
The color of the bottle I'm drawn to on the day I go to buy oil.


Edited by maximus (05/12/14 09:30 PM)
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#3369887 - 05/12/14 09:49 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
surfstar Offline


Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 4343
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
1) price
2) price
3) price

All other factors are a waste of money. When you can get synthetic rebate oil for free or nearly free, why would I use anything else?
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#3369893 - 05/12/14 09:59 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
J_R Offline


Registered: 03/15/07
Posts: 60
Loc: Oakland, CA
Mobil 1 0w40 for me as it's one of the manufacturer's recommendations for my Saab 9-3 and I know I can't go wrong with that oil. I guess my answer to the OP's question would be "reputation".
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#3371353 - 05/14/14 10:53 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
Audioquest Offline


Registered: 03/07/04
Posts: 317
Loc: Southwestern Ontario
If the oil is what the owner's manual specifies and it's from a reputable manufacturer, I'll always grab the cheapest. Never had an oil related issue yet.
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#3371407 - 05/14/14 11:38 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: Audioquest]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 1947
Loc: sunny/rainy Mia, FL.
Originally Posted By: Audioquest
If the oil is what the owner's manual specifies and it's from a reputable manufacturer, I'll always grab the cheapest. Never had an oil related issue yet.


Hey Audioquest,

What does the Juke require?
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#3371423 - 05/14/14 11:57 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
KrisZ Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4261
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I'm a firm believer that the way the bottle is shaped and colored has a great influence on oil's performance. For example when buying synthetic, I avoid square bottles with sharp edges because synthetic molecules are like "marbles" and will get deformed when stored in container with sharp edges.
I do the opposite for dino oil. Its molecules are like cubes, so a square-ish container is perfect for dino oil.
Color of the bottle tells me what kind of oil is inside. White black or grey tells me that the oil inside is "meh", but I'll buy it on sale. brightly colored bottles, like yellow, red, gold, etc. get me all excited and tell me that the oil inside is "hot" or "top notch", but I still get them on sale.

I've been following that rule for years now with great results... grin
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