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#3363587 - 05/06/14 04:49 PM M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years.
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 10108
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
I couldn't believe I saw it, but there it was in it's own liter bottles on the shelves of my local CDN Tire.
Price $12.49/L.

It's never made sense why they chose not to market it in the Great White North with it's class leading MRV spec'.
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#3363602 - 05/06/14 05:06 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
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Loc: South Florida
Has anyone ever questioned Mobil why AFE, that would appear tailor made for you guys, wasn't sold up there?
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#3363630 - 05/06/14 05:34 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: wemay]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
The reason I was given years ago was that no manufacturer spec's a 0W-30 grade therefore there wouldn't be sufficient demand for it. Of course that argument should also apply to the States when they reinvented both their 0W-20 and 0W-30 grades as AFE with a different marketing spin and getting away entirely from the superior extreme cold start spec's of the oil.

Anyway it should be welcome news to our Cdn friends primarily out West that do see extremely cold winter conditions.
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#3363684 - 05/06/14 06:21 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
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Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 5800
Loc: Upper Midwest
Whoa. Considering what a 5-quart jug of it sells for here in Walmart, that is astounding.

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I couldn't believe I saw it, but there it was in it's own liter bottles on the shelves of my local CDN Tire.
Price $12.49/L.
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#3363692 - 05/06/14 06:25 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
geeman789 Offline


Registered: 04/13/14
Posts: 668
Loc: Western Canada
Ours too... 4.4 l jugs... at, gasp, $ 49.99 CDN per jug. Should be on sale soon...

Sure would be nice to have some USA prices here... but I understand Euro and Aus. prices are even higher...
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#3363698 - 05/06/14 06:31 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
geeman789 Offline


Registered: 04/13/14
Posts: 668
Loc: Western Canada
Walmart has 5w30 M1 for $ 28.88 CDN per 4.4 l jug... Makes you wonder of the exotic 0w is worth it...?
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#3363700 - 05/06/14 06:34 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: geeman789]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 19118
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: geeman789
Walmart has 5w30 M1 for $ 28.88 CDN per 4.4 l jug... Makes you wonder of the exotic 0w is worth it...?

Usually up here, I've seen other varieties of AFE priced the same as the vanilla, so give it time.
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#3363709 - 05/06/14 06:41 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
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Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 10936
Loc: Middlesex County CT
Many years ago, XD-3 0w-30 was available and seemed to be probably the most outstanding oil sold in Canada. I forget the username, but a guy was running it in his fleet of Silouttes or pontiac equivalent for 10s of thousands of km. Not available in the US. It is not like AFE is the only goto oil for cold weather.
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#3363737 - 05/06/14 07:01 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 12231
Loc: OH
So M1 AFE is available in every Walmart in Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Arizona and SoCal, at roughly the same price for a jug of five quarts as you'd pay for a couple of liters but not for nearly a decade in a much colder area?
Who made the decision on this really lame marketing?
XOM or Canadian retailers?
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#3363748 - 05/06/14 07:06 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: simple_gifts]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 19118
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Not available in the US. It is not like AFE is the only goto oil for cold weather.

No, but XD-3 (now Mobil Delvac Elite 222 0w-30) has significantly higher HTHS, and isn't SN/GF-5 like the AFE or similar oils.

Originally Posted By: fdcg27
XOM or Canadian retailers?

I suspect it would be Imperial Oil's fault, since I never saw it on any of their sell sheets, ever.
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#3363756 - 05/06/14 07:13 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8187
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
The reason I was given years ago was that no manufacturer spec's a 0W-30 grade therefore there wouldn't be sufficient demand for it. Of course that argument should also apply to the States when they reinvented both their 0W-20 and 0W-30 grades as AFE with a different marketing spin and getting away entirely from the superior extreme cold start spec's of the oil.

Anyway it should be welcome news to our Cdn friends primarily out West that do see extremely cold winter conditions.

One thing that bothers me is that GM has put in their owner's manuals "In extreme cold a synthetic 5w30 or 0w30 is preferable" back in the 1990s, and did that all the way until Dexos was specified.

So, no, they don't require 0w30, but they recommend it highly. Given the number of GM cars up there, I would think there would be enough demand.
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#3363758 - 05/06/14 07:13 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: Garak]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 12231
Loc: OH
Okay, but you have Walmart in Canada.
Why weren't they smart enough to offer the oil there?
It's not as though any entity could resist their demands.
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#3363782 - 05/06/14 07:30 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
geeman789 Offline


Registered: 04/13/14
Posts: 668
Loc: Western Canada
Local Walmart sells M1 in only 5w20/30 , and 5w40 TDT. Nothing exotic...

Probably because 98 % of people buy ONLY what is spec'd for their car...
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#3363789 - 05/06/14 07:34 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: kschachn]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 10108
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Whoa. Considering what a 5-quart jug of it sells for here in Walmart, that is astounding.

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I couldn't believe I saw it, but there it was in it's own liter bottles on the shelves of my local CDN Tire.
Price $12.49/L.

That's the same list price for M1 0W-20 and M1 0W-40, but they frequently go on sale for 20%-40% off or more.
A week ago my local CDN Tire had an in store special on M1 0W-20 in a 4.4L jug for $29.49 ($4.66/L).

Anyway, being new, I don't think the 0W-30 is going on any major sale for a while.
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#3363805 - 05/06/14 07:49 PM Re: M1 AFE 0W-30 back in Canada after nine years. [Re: CATERHAM]
Danno Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 1323
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
Umm...$29.49 is 6.70 per liter for 4.4L. Still way better off to get TGMO.

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