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#3354894 - 04/27/14 06:06 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: grampi]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
Posts: 1161
Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: grampi

I guess I didn't feel the need to start hoarding ammo just because of who was moving into the WH...unfortunately a lot of others did....


right on. and why did Jcwitt use "leader" in quotes? the guy was elected twice and no one has taken yer gunz. Is this site now the Cliven Bundy ranch??

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#3354896 - 04/27/14 06:09 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: jcwit]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
Posts: 1161
Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: jcwit


Well you can always go to a gun show and pay $50/$75 bucks for a brick of .22's.


well you SHOULD. just in case you need to fight the govt off with a 10/22. the gun companies are laughing all the way to the bank. kind of like the way glenn beck got rich ripping people off with gold line and mercantilists got rich selling shovels and beans during the gold rush

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#3354957 - 04/27/14 07:18 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: FXjohn]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2803
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi

I guess I didn't feel the need to start hoarding ammo just because of who was moving into the WH...unfortunately a lot of others did....


right on. and why did Jcwitt use "leader" in quotes? the guy was elected twice and no one has taken yer gunz. Is this site now the Cliven Bundy ranch??


Take it however you wish, makes no never mind to me. You can't figure it out, there's little I can do to help you.

BTW it's jcwit, NOT Jcwit.

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#3354961 - 04/27/14 07:22 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: jcwit]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
Posts: 1161
Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi

I guess I didn't feel the need to start hoarding ammo just because of who was moving into the WH...unfortunately a lot of others did....


right on. and why did Jcwitt use "leader" in quotes? the guy was elected twice and no one has taken yer gunz. Is this site now the Cliven Bundy ranch??


Take it however you wish, makes no never mind to me. You can't figure it out, there's little I can do to help you.

BTW it's jcwit, NOT Jcwit.


who me? i don't panic and worry about buying ammo at the last second. I had what I needed before President Obama took office and i never feared he was going to take my guns or put me in a FEMA camp.

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#3355031 - 04/27/14 08:08 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: FXjohn]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 3457
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi

I guess I didn't feel the need to start hoarding ammo just because of who was moving into the WH...unfortunately a lot of others did....


right on. and why did Jcwitt use "leader" in quotes? the guy was elected twice and no one has taken yer gunz. Is this site now the Cliven Bundy ranch??


Take it however you wish, makes no never mind to me. You can't figure it out, there's little I can do to help you.

BTW it's jcwit, NOT Jcwit.


who me? i don't panic and worry about buying ammo at the last second. I had what I needed before President Obama took office and i never feared he was going to take my guns or put me in a FEMA camp.


Oh, I'm sure the guy would love to confiscate everybody's guns and ammo, fortunately for us, he doesn't have the laws to back up those desires...

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#3355039 - 04/27/14 08:12 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: jcwit]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 3457
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: grampi
[quote=jcwit]Just what we need, the government telling us how much ammo we can but, with no thought it lets the camels nose into the tent.

Reading to much into it????
You are not looking at the future ramifications of a law such as this.

You seem much to concerned with "I want mine."


Well duh, that's the point. Put the ammo back on the shelves so sport shooters like myself can get back to doing what they like to do instead of all the ammo going to hoarders and people looking to make a quick buck....



I guess I didn't feel the need to start hoarding ammo just because of who was moving into the WH...unfortunately a lot of others did....


Well you can always go to a gun show and pay $50/$75 bucks for a brick of .22's.


I actually found a place online selling the Federal 525 round bricks for $74.95 each...I was buying those at Walmart 3 or 4 years ago for just $11.99...if that isn't price gouging I don't know what is...

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#3355304 - 04/28/14 05:39 AM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: grampi]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
Posts: 1161
Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: grampi


Oh, I'm sure the guy would love to confiscate everybody's guns and ammo, fortunately for us, he doesn't have the laws to back up those desires...


oh you're sure. that's why the panic I guess

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#3355314 - 04/28/14 06:24 AM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: FXjohn]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2803
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi


Oh, I'm sure the guy would love to confiscate everybody's guns and ammo, fortunately for us, he doesn't have the laws to back up those desires...


oh you're sure. that's why the panic I guess


More than likely, after all that's when it all started.

YUP, Those of us in the know, know. Those of us who aren't haven't a clue!

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#3355405 - 04/28/14 08:43 AM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: jcwit]
hatt Offline


Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 930
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: jcwit

Well you can always go to a gun show and pay $50/$75 bucks for a brick of .22's.
If people would stop doing that stupid stuff .22 would magically reappear.
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#3355472 - 04/28/14 10:01 AM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: grampi]
Durango Offline


Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 2036
Loc: Los Angeles, California
Originally Posted By: grampi
For 3 years or more now my searches for .22 ammo have all been failures...my daughter likes to go to the shooting range with the old man (the old man likes it too, when she doesn't outshoot me)....doesn't seem to matter if I look locally, online, Wal-Mart, gun shops, wherever, they're always out...I would've thought this issue would be resolved by now....strange that it isn't....


grampi,

I haven't been able to buy 22 ammo like I use to for years! Ammo is just too high here in California and because I'm more worried about putting food on the table I'm lucky to get to the range twice per year.

In addition during my work time some people head to the stores and buy the entire lot. One store was charging around $35 bucks per brick.

Durango

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#3355580 - 04/28/14 12:35 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: FXjohn]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2803
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi


Oh, I'm sure the guy would love to confiscate everybody's guns and ammo, fortunately for us, he doesn't have the laws to back up those desires...


oh you're sure. that's why the panic I guess


Just a little education.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?240038-Found-on-Facebook

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#3355587 - 04/28/14 12:40 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: jcwit]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 4400
Loc: Virginia Beach
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi


Oh, I'm sure the guy would love to confiscate everybody's guns and ammo, fortunately for us, he doesn't have the laws to back up those desires...


oh you're sure. that's why the panic I guess


Just a little education.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?240038-Found-on-Facebook


Link requires membership.

American Rifleman had an extensive article on ammo supply. Simply put: consumer demand has gone way up. Factories are working 3 shifts to try and keep up and production has focused on the common calibers, but demand remains high.

I don't think it's the survivalist/prepper types that are driving up .22LR, frankly, it's the sport shooter that wants rounds for plinking.

The prepper types drove up demand for AR-15 magazines and .223/5.56mm last year and that demand has finally been met. While demand was high, folks were getting $100 (and higher) for a box of 90 rounds of .223.

That ammo is back in stock (and back to normal prices) and magazines are back down to $13 for a Magpul at my LGS (so, yeah, I bought a few more Magpul magazines and 1,000 rounds of XM193 last week for $420).

The Gov't doesn't use .22LR. Preppers don't. It's your fellow sport shooters that are causing the demand spike. It'll come back down in price and .22 LR availability will return to normal again.

But with gun sales doubling since 2008, the volume of .22LR (and other popular calibers like 9mm, .45ACP and .223/5.56mm) will never return to 2008 levels...there are too many new owners that want to shoot.


Edited by Astro14 (04/28/14 12:52 PM)
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#3355596 - 04/28/14 12:56 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: hatt]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 4400
Loc: Virginia Beach
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: jcwit

Well you can always go to a gun show and pay $50/$75 bucks for a brick of .22's.
If people would stop doing that stupid stuff .22 would magically reappear.


If everyone stopped buying .22LR, then yes, it would magically reappear...that's the nature of the supply/demand curve intersection and price point.

But hoping that everyone will stop buying something that they want is like hoping to see a unicorn...both magical and unlikely.
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#3355644 - 04/28/14 01:37 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: grampi]
whip Offline


Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 1519
Loc: ohio
Originally Posted By: grampi
I actually found a place online selling the Federal 525 round bricks for $74.95 each...I was buying those at Walmart 3 or 4 years ago for just $11.99...if that isn't price gouging I don't know what is...

It's not price gouging. It's the way a free market works. Buyers set the market. Raising prices on ammo is no different than Harley dealers charging 4-5,000 over MSRP or a Dodge dealer charging $10,000 over MSRP for a Viper. The new Silverado isn't selling as well as Chevy had hoped, so they are offering huge rebates on it. They lowered the price because buyers said the truck was over vauled.

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#3355831 - 04/28/14 04:50 PM Re: Are you able to buy ammo? [Re: jcwit]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
Posts: 1161
Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: grampi


Oh, I'm sure the guy would love to confiscate everybody's guns and ammo, fortunately for us, he doesn't have the laws to back up those desires...


oh you're sure. that's why the panic I guess


More than likely, after all that's when it all started.

YUP, Those of us in the know, know. Those of us who aren't haven't a clue!


so if you know so much, what guns have been taken?

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