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July will mark the start of the fifth year with a junkyard compressor on the '98 Windstar. Aside from a noisy first clutch engagement at the beginning of the warm season, no problems. Nothing else was replaced, either.. just the compressor, a shop vacuum and driveway re-fill.

It cools more than good enough to freeze the kids out of the back.
 
Well I picked up my bone yard compressor today, $75.00 and it appears to be in good shape, clutch turns easily and so does the pulley. It is a Sanden unit off a 1999 Ram and has a 90 day warranty. Bone yard did not have my condenser so I will try flushing my existing condenser. If a bunch of debris blows out the condenser while flushing I may just buy a new one. I also picked up a new drier at Autozone, they were the only place in town that had it, plus I had a $20.00 credit on my Rewards card.

I also bought a set of AC line connector remover tools at Autozone. I plan on removing the lines from the truck to flush them out and also flush the evap while the lines are off. I bought a can of AC Pro flush, the aerosol type. I hope it works well, that is all the flushing I am set up to do. After running around all over town today I bought a pancake style 1/3 hp air compressor at Kmart of all places. The AC Pro can says use air to clear it out so I really hope that little compressor moves enough air to blow the flush residue out. I saw a Youtube video from Autozone with Bruce Bonebrake doing an AC flush on a Ford and he was using a similar compressor. I plan on checking online a little further, if I can find a good deal on a stronger compressor I may return this one to Kmart. I have not even opened the box yet.

I just need to pick up the PAG oil tomorrow after work and may get started on the job when I get home. I hope to finish it up Friday night and take it to a shop to have them pull vacuum and recharge the system. Plus I want to know for sure the pressures are OK. The flush has me a bit worried, I hope I am doing it right, but no shops even mentioned it when I was calling around for someone to check out my AC system. The $1,100.00 estimate I received does not include a flush procedure either so I wonder just how important it really is.
 
I was thinking about this job, I really do not want any problems so I ordered a new condenser just now from AAP. Got a bottle of PAG oil and a new orifice tube too. Used TRT30 and saved $50.00, total price was $126.00. Not a bad price to ensure I get this done correctly.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Yup dead compressor. I will not install a rebuilt.imo they are junk. I only install new ones


I would say the same for JY compressors over a certain age as well. Even on a car with low miles, age seems to kill compressors (really the compressor seals).
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Often you can buy a brand new compressor that was not the same as OE, and was made in China every time. They have a similar price to cheap rebuilds that are carelessly sprayed with cheap black paint.


Yeah, I looked at one at an auto parts store once, and it was silver paint, and they didn't bother to clean it first before painting.
 
Here's an update...Earlier this week I replaced my fan clutch so I could at least drive the truck to work and back without worrying about it overheating. I used an Imperial brand clutch from AAP, it is made in the USA and so far it is doing very well, running nice and quiet but I will need to see how it does when the hot weather really gets here.

Yesterday I put in my bone yard compressor, new drier, and new condenser. Flushed out the lines with a can of AC Pro Flush aerosol. I had second thoughts about that compressor I bought at Kmart, so I returned it and used a coupon to buy a small 100 psi hot dog style compressor and a 25 foot poly-material hose at Harbor Freight. I used the flush spray and blew out my AC lines with the little compressor. It did a pretty good job for a $50.00 1/3 hp compressor.

I bought a set of AC line coupler tools at Autozone, but could not get the lines loose from the evap inlet and outlet tubes at the firewall. I pulled and tugged but I was worried I would break my evap lines so I just flushed it from the one line at the drier and at the orifice tube coupling. I used an old Tupperware pitcher to catch the spray from the lines but I did not see much dirt or metal flakes in what came out of the lines, it was pretty clean for having a bad compressor. Later I found out I did not have the right size AC line tool, I had bought the generic universal set of 4 tools, but AAP sells a set of 6 tools that has the one for the fittings on a Dakota. If anyone needs to know, it's the blue one.

I also had a problem with the fixed orifice tube. I got the old one out easily enough but the new one would not go in all the way. I broke the first replacement tube trying to wiggle it in place, got another one at Napa and spent a long time trying to get it in the line. Finally I figured there must be something wrong with the line. It has an aluminum-wrapped insulation foam on the outside so I could not tell much from looking at it but I could not see any debris or anything inside the line that would block the tube from seating. I put everything back together and took it to the shop, the guy popped off the line and found that the tube was twisted slightly, probably from taking the tube out last Monday and again yesterday. That was why the tube would not go in like it should. The lines are aluminum and can easily get bent or kinked.

Yesterday I left my truck at the shop, they kept it overnight, the tech was able to straighten the kinked AC line to get the orifice tube reinstalled but they charged me half an hour's labor to do it. Total bill today for that and recharging the freon was $196.00. They also put in a dye to check for any leaks in the future. I used AC Pro PAG 100 oil with the ICE 32 additive in the compressor and drier, it does make the compressor run smoother with less noise and the system does seem to cool down faster when the truck is first started.

I picked up my truck today and I sure enough have some cold AC now...42.5 degrees at the center vent on my infrared thermometer gun, about the same reading on my analog dial thermometer with the long probe on it. And that was at idle in my driveway after driving the truck home from the shop, about 3 miles from here. Outside temp was about 85 or 86 degrees when I tested my center vent temp.

So I spent about $550.00 total fixing my AC and having it charged. That is a lot better than the $1,100.00+ estimate for the shop to do the entire job. I was disappointed in myself for not being able to get the AC line loose and fix the kinked line but for $40.00 and not having to order a new line from Mopar I guess I can't complain. I should be OK now as long as my bone yard compressor holds out. At least I did about 80% of the work myself and it cost a lot less than if I had just had the shop do the whole job..

Thanks to everyone here who helped me out with this problem.
 
Congratulations on a job well done!!!!!!
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And thanks for sharing with us all the details of this successful adventure.
 
Thanks guys...I drove my truck home from work and had to turn the AC temp dial on the dash up a good bit, that thing is blowing ice cubes out the vents...I went to the Post Office at lunch today and the AC cooled much better on that trip too. It is only about 10 minutes from work to the Post Office but I still had cold air. As long as my new and used parts hold up I should be cool this summer.

Thanks again for all the help here.
 
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