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#3329968 - 04/01/14 06:47 AM Please help me choose the best car for my oil
Zako2 Offline


Registered: 04/09/12
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Loc: Texas
For years I have observed many people asking stupid questions on this forum about selecting the best oil for the car that they already own. The manufacturer of this car often demanded using inferior oil types such as the 20-grade oils, like 0W20 or 5W20. People are asking about the best 5W20 synthetic every day, or whether it's ok to just pour the superior a 5W30 or even 10W30 oil without voiding the warranty. And then it just struck me: the main problem that we're facing on this forum is that we all chose a wrong car to begin with. Therefore I thought, why not just buy a stash of the best oil ever made, and only after buying the best oil ever made to select the best car that's designed for this oil?

And so, I bought a few bottles of AMSOIL Signature Series 5W30 in advance. I bought the AMSOIL Signature Series synthetic because this is the only real synthetic oil. I know that AMSOIL is superior to those [censored] Group III based oils. The oils that use the inferior group III base stocks are not even real synthetic oils. And you can't even compare Moly-based friction modifiers vs calcium based. Moly is much better, and that's a fact. Moreover, I know that AMSOIL uses the best fresh base stocks instead of the recycled garbage such as the Valvoline Nextgen. Finally, I will never accept using a 5W20 or 0W20 weight oils in my car. It pours like water and everyone knows that the only reason that car manufacturers recommend 20-grade oil is to meet the CAFE fuel efficiency standards.

It should be clear by now why I insist on using AMSOIL Signature Series 5W30. This is the best oil that exists in the world. What I really need right now is to find a car that works best with this oil. There are too many chooses, and so I would appreciate some well thought out suggestions. The number of seats, doors, cylinders, cup holders, or the budget do not matter as long as the car is designed to work with the God's chosen motor oil.

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#3329976 - 04/01/14 06:57 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
01_celica_gt Offline


Registered: 07/29/13
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Lmao this is a first for me, high five for thinking out the box.
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#3329983 - 04/01/14 07:03 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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I've literally bought filters on clearance then later when looking at some heap on craigslist thought, well, jeez, this will fit the PF16s I got at that yard sale...

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#3329988 - 04/01/14 07:06 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Klutch9 Offline


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To the OP, you win the award for best thread title of the day and possibly ever!
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#3329990 - 04/01/14 07:09 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Sam2000 Offline


Registered: 03/25/14
Posts: 400
Loc: Nevada
What you need to do is have this thread go on for 10 pages, get lots of suggestions, and then buy the car you *feel* is best for the oil.

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#3329993 - 04/01/14 07:10 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
2010_FX4 Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
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I think I have you covered. Using arguably what is known as the best oil in the world, requires a very special car. One that, since the oil will cover all aspects of maintenance, will likely need some help containing all of the horsepower stuffed under the hood. Indeed, this magic elixir of artificial dinosaur remains, can only further help to extend the life of this golden ride by a few hours, perhaps even days.

Viola!

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#3330004 - 04/01/14 07:22 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: 2010_FX4]
RedOakRanch Offline


Registered: 11/10/13
Posts: 73
Loc: Central Coast California
A serious answer to a silly question: anything with a GM 5.3, check out my UOA in that forum. Same oil, great results.

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#3330008 - 04/01/14 07:27 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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Now that you have bought the best oil in the world, you also have a solemn responsibility to extract the absolute last measure of performance from it so that you are not wasting your money. Just think of all the unfortunate cars that will not be getting the best oil that been entrusted to you. You owe it to them to buy the car with the most shear, sludge, and wear-prone engine that can be found and salve it with the healing balm of your best oil. And if you drain it from your engine so much as ten miles before its last useful goodness is exhausted, you will be severely dealt with, and will lose your permission to buy the best oil.
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#3330012 - 04/01/14 07:32 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Miller88 Offline


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Take a look at the date folks smile
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#3330025 - 04/01/14 07:49 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
bluesubie Offline


Registered: 08/04/03
Posts: 1899
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Any later model naturally aspirated Subaru with an EJ engine. Get a bypass filter and run 25-30k mile intervals. If you have consumption, don't even bother changing the oil.

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#3330033 - 04/01/14 07:59 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
gfh77665 Offline


Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 2419
Loc: Southeast Texas
Originally Posted By: Zako2
as long as the car is designed to work with the God's chosen motor oil.


NextGen, 5-20, CAFE, Amsoil...

Got sarcasm, Zako?

Well OK. I guess those who dare to ask for advice here, like they actually want to learn something and properly care for their cars, have offended you.



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#3330040 - 04/01/14 08:05 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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This is an Aprils fools joke!
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#3330042 - 04/01/14 08:06 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
kschachn Offline


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The old man down at the feed store says you need to add STP and then you can go at least 3500 miles between changes.
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#3330043 - 04/01/14 08:07 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Bud Offline


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Posts: 166
Loc: Texas
Great idea. I think the only car that fits the bill is the Smart car. You know the one, beer can on wheels.
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#3330076 - 04/01/14 08:35 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1715
Loc: London, England
Nice April Fool.

Think a few have fallen for it.
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#3330093 - 04/01/14 08:52 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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Registered: 02/21/03
Posts: 3695
Loc: Houston, Tex
It may be an April Fools joke, but it is also a dead-on parody of BITOG.

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#3330099 - 04/01/14 08:58 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
ARCOgraphite Offline


Registered: 05/17/09
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Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
Truly, I almost did this on my last car purchase thinking of buying some German or French car that used a 5w40 "real oil". Then I thought twice ... .
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#3330117 - 04/01/14 09:16 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Lex94 Offline


Registered: 09/28/06
Posts: 512
Loc: NoVA
A 1967 VW Beetle. Obviously.

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#3330188 - 04/01/14 10:38 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
HangFire Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 637
Loc: Central Maryland
There is only one choice:



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#3330283 - 04/01/14 12:12 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
Posts: 7174
Loc: Onondaga County
I have decided that 20 grade oil does not protect my Focus well enough.

I am going to run 30-70 year round!
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#3330316 - 04/01/14 12:52 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
turtlevette Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 685
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: Zako2
just pour the superior a 5W30 or even 10W30 oil without voiding the warranty.



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#3330338 - 04/01/14 01:14 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
Posts: 4118
Loc: Charlotte, NC
I have 2 of these, a 1986 GLHT and a 1987 NA. Will run forever on any oil, even used oil in a pinch. Just change the head gasket every 100k miles or so.



The Omni and Horizon were the first front-wheel drive cars in the Dodge and Plymouth lineup, the first front-wheel drive transverse engine production car in the North American market, and among the first American built front-wheel drive cars to sell in large numbers. The Omni almost reached the 1 million unit mark, but production stopped in 1990; with a total of 961,508 Omni/Horizons assembled.

More info at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Omni

Wayne
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#3330365 - 04/01/14 01:41 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 2853
Loc: Upper Midwest
Which were, of course, attempts by Chrysler to clone the already popular Volkswagen Rabbit. Chrysler purchased Rabbits and disassembled them in order to reverse engineer whatever they could. Chrysler didn't have a four cylinder engine they could use at first, so they purchased Rabbit engines for several years until they could build an engine of their own.

I owned a 1979 model, a two-tone green four door. It was without a doubt the worst quality vehicle I have ever owned. Except for the Volkswagen engine, that wasn't too bad.

Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
The Omni and Horizon were the first front-wheel drive cars in the Dodge and Plymouth lineup, the first front-wheel drive transverse engine production car in the North American market, and among the first American built front-wheel drive cars to sell in large numbers. The Omni almost reached the 1 million unit mark, but production stopped in 1990; with a total of 961,508 Omni/Horizons assembled.

More info at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Omni

Wayne
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#3330389 - 04/01/14 02:10 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: RedOakRanch]
2010_FX4 Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 3220
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: RedOakRanch
A serious answer to a silly question: anything with a GM 5.3, check out my UOA in that forum. Same oil, great results.

There was nothing serious about it smile
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#3330486 - 04/01/14 03:42 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: RedOakRanch]
jhellwig Offline


Registered: 07/01/13
Posts: 381
Loc: Ottumwa, Iowa
Originally Posted By: RedOakRanch
A serious answer to a silly question: anything with a GM 5.3, check out my UOA in that forum. Same oil, great results.


Well if we want to split hairs the new 5.3 specs 0w20.

I call [censored] on any 5w30 being the best. Vival la 10w40 dino in a prius in northern canada in February!!!!


Edited by jhellwig (04/01/14 03:48 PM)
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#3330495 - 04/01/14 03:48 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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Great thread, and I've nearly posted same before...if I buy a case of TGMO, does that justify me buying a BRZ Subaru ?

Had similar thoughts at work yesterday when one of my co-workers was talking about his dyno forays...in my words, he'd achieved "tyre pressure boost crossover"...more pressure in his manifold than in his tyres...32psi in his Mitsubishi on E85.

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#3330499 - 04/01/14 03:51 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: 2010_FX4]
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Registered: 05/04/03
Posts: 5561
Loc: southeast US
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4


Viola!



You are crazy. Yugo specified 20W40. I know it because I had one. Sadly, that was before I knew about BITOG and used 10W40 instead.

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#3330540 - 04/01/14 04:37 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: friendly_jacek]
2010_FX4 Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 3220
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4


Viola!



You are crazy. Yugo specified 20W40. I know it because I had one. Sadly, that was before I knew about BITOG and used 10W40 instead.

For starters, check the date on the calendar...
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#3330613 - 04/01/14 06:38 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: kschachn]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
Posts: 4118
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Which were, of course, attempts by Chrysler to clone the already popular Volkswagen Rabbit. Chrysler purchased Rabbits and disassembled them in order to reverse engineer whatever they could. Chrysler didn't have a four cylinder engine they could use at first, so they purchased Rabbit engines for several years until they could build an engine of their own.

I owned a 1979 model, a two-tone green four door. It was without a doubt the worst quality vehicle I have ever owned. Except for the Volkswagen engine, that wasn't too bad.

Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
I have 2 of these, a 1986 GLHT and a 1987 NA. Will run forever on any oil, even used oil in a pinch. Just change the head gasket every 100k miles or so.

The Omni and Horizon were the first front-wheel drive cars in the Dodge and Plymouth lineup, the first front-wheel drive transverse engine production car in the North American market, and among the first American built front-wheel drive cars to sell in large numbers. The Omni almost reached the 1 million unit mark, but production stopped in 1990; with a total of 961,508 Omni/Horizons assembled.

More info at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Omni

Wayne


The Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon was designed by Chrysler Europe, the former Simca and Rootes; most of the engineering appears to have been done in France, where Simca made best-sellers and the inspiration for the Volkswagen Rabbit.

(Full story on its development - as told by the design team).
http://www.allpar.com/omni/horizon-c2.html

With the 2.2 liter engine and a manual transmission, they were quick, but as economy cars, they did not have a reputation for speed. The Omni GLH and GLHS would change that - for those in the know.

Check it out. Facts are facts....

Wayne
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#3330614 - 04/01/14 06:42 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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I often peruse craigslist looking at Fords for my FL-400S and other equivalent oil filters. I do not have a ford.


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#3330619 - 04/01/14 06:45 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: 2010_FX4]
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Registered: 05/04/03
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Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4


Viola!



You are crazy. Yugo specified 20W40. I know it because I had one. Sadly, that was before I knew about BITOG and used 10W40 instead.

For starters, check the date on the calendar...


I can read the calendar OK.
2013, year after the world was supposed to end in 2012. We live on a borrowed time. Sounds like we just started 4th month of that already.

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#3330622 - 04/01/14 06:50 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Shannow]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7879
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Great thread, and I've nearly posted same before...if I buy a case of TGMO, does that justify me buying a BRZ Subaru ?

Had similar thoughts at work yesterday when one of my co-workers was talking about his dyno forays...in my words, he'd achieved "tyre pressure boost crossover"...more pressure in his manifold than in his tyres...32psi in his Mitsubishi on E85.



Tire pressure-boost crossover.
Now that's a good one.



As far as the omni goes I had one. Great little car. 5 speed,2.2 engine. My girl at the time drove it without oil. She pulled in an I could hear the top end clacking really badly so I asked her how
On its sounded like that.
A week or so she says,I was working out of town at the time. So I pop the hood,no oil shows on the dipstick. I put 4 litres in.
She drove that car for 3 more years til she rolled it.
Its funny you know. There was a time in my life where vehicle maintenance was a whenever type thing,and my vehicles still went into spaceship type mileages. Now I obsess about it and they don't seem to last any longer.
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#3330627 - 04/01/14 06:54 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Clevy]
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
There was a time in my life where vehicle maintenance was a whenever type thing,and my vehicles still went into spaceship type mileages. Now I obsess about it and they don't seem to last any longer.


Yup, that MoS2 must be plugging the engines of yours.

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#3330629 - 04/01/14 06:55 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Shannow]
turtlevette Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 685
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: Shannow
...32psi in his Mitsubishi on E85.


Naw, Not on Obamajuice. Really. What's this new fangled world commin to.


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#3330638 - 04/01/14 07:04 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: friendly_jacek]
2010_FX4 Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 3220
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
I can read the calendar OK.
2013, year after the world was supposed to end in 2012. We live on a borrowed time. Sounds like we just started 4th month of that already.

If you are being serious then you need a new calendar...
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#3330790 - 04/01/14 09:02 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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Posts: 9790
Loc: Clovis, CA
The 2014 Chevrolet Camaro is speced for 5W-30.


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#3330842 - 04/01/14 09:36 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: jhellwig]
RedOakRanch Offline


Registered: 11/10/13
Posts: 73
Loc: Central Coast California
Originally Posted By: jhellwig
Originally Posted By: RedOakRanch
A serious answer to a silly question: anything with a GM 5.3, check out my UOA in that forum. Same oil, great results.


Well if we want to split hairs the new 5.3 specs 0w20.

I call [censored] on any 5w30 being the best. Vival la 10w40 dino in a prius in northern canada in February!!!!


You got me! I'm not sold on AFM and 0w-20 oil yet...
5w-30 in 20 years will be the 20w-50 of today...

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#3330892 - 04/01/14 10:38 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: 2010_FX4]
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Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
I can read the calendar OK.
2013, year after the world was supposed to end in 2012. We live on a borrowed time. Sounds like we just started 4th month of that already.

If you are being serious then you need a new calendar...


C'mon, no one is serious today.

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#3330912 - 04/01/14 11:02 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
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#3330979 - 04/02/14 03:55 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Lex94 Offline


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#3330994 - 04/02/14 04:57 AM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: Zako2]
Lex94 Offline


Registered: 09/28/06
Posts: 512
Loc: NoVA
Had Yugo Specified Toyota 0w20...We would still see them around today.

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#3331413 - 04/02/14 01:28 PM Re: Please help me choose the best car for my oil [Re: RedOakRanch]
turtlevette Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 685
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: RedOakRanch
5w-30 in 20 years will be the 20w-50 of today...


more like 2 years

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