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#3329163 - 03/31/14 01:18 PM 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation
PDB Offline


Registered: 02/03/13
Posts: 4
Loc: Colorado
Hello! I've been a lurker for some time... been trying to find a similar question and answer/ but came up short in terms of satisfactory answers.


I've got a 2006 Land Rover LR3 - 167,000 miles. 4.4l Jaguar engine.
I live at 5600 feet, play at 6000-11000 feet of elevation.
I'm looking for OIL/ Filter/ OCI combo suggestions. Been considering RP, Amsoil, M1 EP, Penzoil... but i'm open to whatever is going to keep my engine happy.

I'd consider my driving habits as severe - easily. Early in the car's life it was a white collar work car - driving to and from a couple of cities/ the airport/ office/ driving customers around/ easy highway roadtrips.
The last several years it still sees work style duty (not severe) but it also sees LOTS of dirt roads (unimproved, but not quite rock crawling), lots of spirited driving, heavy loads (lots of road trips with guys and moto's), etc.

OCI's have been anywhere from 5-10k (convenience often plays a factor)
Never done a test on the oil (would rather not, as i'll probably not do this consistently with my insane work schedule)
Early in life I used castrol oil with OEM filters. Been using mobile one or royal purple lately with wix or royal purple filters. I notice it runs a bit queiter with RP products... but i'm aware this doesn't mean it's better for my vehicle.


My objective - is to keep the vehicle until 250-300k. I probably should have gotten more serious about the best oil/ filter/ oci combo earlier... but it is what it is.

I know a lot folks are all about cost to performance ration... but i'm not. As long a i'm paying around around $10/qt or below I don't really care. not too concerned with filter cost (no, i'm not going to install a 2 filter system)



ok - ask me questions and i'll give you answers if you don't have what you need to work with.


I'm looking for OIL/ Filter/ OCI combo suggestions. Been considering RP, Amsoil, M1 EP, Penzoil... but i'm open to whatever is going to keep my engine happy.


If possible, please don't represent your brand loyalties... I like to see some evidence/ studies/ real world numbers (there's plenty of conflicting evidence posted in these forums)... but experience is also helpful.



thanks!!

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#3329204 - 03/31/14 02:03 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: PDB]
92saturnsl2 Offline


Registered: 03/02/04
Posts: 766
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
Mobil1 0w-40
Castrol Edge 0w-40 or 5w-40
Castrol 0w-30

(in that order)

.. would be my choice. Add Napa Gold filter and sleep well at night.
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1985 Ford F-250HD Supercab 4x4 460 (7.5L) V8 - T19 4sp
102k mi

2000 Land Rover Disco II - 4.0L V8 100k miles
Castrol Edge 5w-50 w/ AC Delco UPF2 Filter

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#3329246 - 03/31/14 02:45 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: PDB]
PDB Offline


Registered: 02/03/13
Posts: 4
Loc: Colorado
i understand that 0w-40 is a more heat versatile oil... but does that come at an expense?

for example - does 0w-40 provide better protection at temperature extremes vs 5w30 but less protection at a middle engine temp?

As you know - Here in Colorado - it rarely gets really cold (i used to live in Chicago, where it got wicked cold) and I garage my vehicle in a heated garage... and my cooling system does a good job of keeping the engine temp in check when it's warm.


Do i actually get more protection from a more versatile oil?

Never looked into changing viscosity ratings on my oil.

Thanks!

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#3329722 - 03/31/14 09:24 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: PDB]
PDB Offline


Registered: 02/03/13
Posts: 4
Loc: Colorado
doing some additional reading - it sems that many folks seem to think the thicker oil may cause some issues in and engine spec'd for thinner oil?

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#3329808 - 03/31/14 10:41 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: PDB]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11674
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: PDB
i understand that 0w-40 is a more heat versatile oil... but does that come at an expense?

First off, what does the engine call for? Is it looking for an ACEA type 5w-20, an ordinary North American style 5w-30 conventional, or a European A3/B3 A3/B4 type oil?

All things being equal, a 0w-40 such as M1, Castrol, RP, or whatever floats your boat is often a very good, safe compromise if one is not sure, particularly in a European application.
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2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

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#3329819 - 03/31/14 10:56 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: Garak]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 9422
Loc: Clovis, CA
Originally Posted By: Garak
First off, what does the engine call for?


It calls for 5W-30 and nothing else.

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#3329828 - 03/31/14 11:15 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: Merkava_4]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11674
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Well, there's nothing wrong with a 5w-30 then, either. It's out of warranty, I'm sure, so there's not a lot of concern there. A 40 of some sort would be fine, as would a 0w-30. Maybe they've even been backspeced to a 5w-20. Nonetheless, I can't see the originally recommended 5w-30 to be a problem, nor a 0w-40 or the like.

I wonder if it has a weird specification with respect to the 5w-30, rather than simply any API/ILSAC 5w-30.
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Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

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#3329893 - 04/01/14 02:28 AM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: Garak]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 9422
Loc: Clovis, CA
It also calls for 8.1 quarts. Somebody was smart when they designed the lubrication system.

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#3329905 - 04/01/14 03:41 AM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: Merkava_4]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11674
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
I remembered in another thread we had a heck of a time finding a readily available oil for a British car (probably a Jag). The old M1 SM/GF-4 variety met the strange Ford spec, but the SN/GF-5 M1 did not. Castrol OE was about the only option, since neither of the consumer grade Syntec varieties met it, either. Although in that case, if the vehicle were out of warranty, I couldn't see a problem with the proper grade of Syntec or M1, both being A1/B1 type lubricants anyhow.
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Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

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#3334417 - 04/05/14 07:41 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: PDB]
PDB Offline


Registered: 02/03/13
Posts: 4
Loc: Colorado
Good stuff - thanks all!

Yea, I'm a big fan of the large oil capacity. I notice a big difference in my engines and suspension with larger oil capacity.

I'm probably going to stick with 5w30 after reading more about it in high mileage / older engines.
I'm liking what I have been reading about mobile 1 EP.

For oci- I'm thinking 7k miles

Thoughts on filters?


Thanks again all!!

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#3334612 - 04/05/14 10:53 PM Re: 2006 LR3 4.4l Oil/ Filter/ OCI reccomendation [Re: PDB]
typ901 Offline


Registered: 07/13/08
Posts: 716
Loc: N. 'Burbs of Chicago, IL
M2C913B is the spec. Thought it asked for A1/B1.

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