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#3324411 - 03/26/14 03:44 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Loc: Northern Kentucky
The earlier link was just showing an example. I think my actual filter is a Fram G15. It might not be the best filter for my application, it's just the only metal one I found with a paper element that has 3/8 barbs. I found similar ones but this was the biggest filter I found locally. I actually found this one at tractor supply because Autozone didn't seem to have this in Stock.

I am hoping it will weaken enough from the extra heat cycles that I can crack the seal with a mallet. I have seen people use the clear plastic filters with similar sized barbs but they will expand more than the metal and eventually leak. Probably a great choice for short term solid contamination removal that you can see without cutting open.

I very rarely drive my Taurus so it might be on the vehicle awhile.
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#3379495 - 05/23/14 06:45 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
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Registered: 05/20/14
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Loc: quebec canada
Why a coolant filter is important ? Rofl go see any big truck,i mean any!they ALL HAVE filter.why because the heat and cold cycle create debry (yes even with truck liquid)its slower but on the million mile cycle it is quick.so to prevent particulate in the coolant to shew the engine (_like when you use a grinder)we put filter also said filter also is the excuse to have extender in said filter to prolong the life of the liquid (_wich these days is about 300k
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#3400110 - 06/17/14 08:44 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
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Less than 100 miles over two weeks of short trips ruined the plastic filter. It was fine until I did some full throttle runs to see if it would implode, it did get very wavy at full load and shortly after the next day the element came loose.

In this short time it loaded the filter good. I might do it again for the quick cleanup.

First picture is the day of the install, rest are of the removal after failure.














No leaks or anything but the filter element came loose and stopped filtering. Maybe it reached its holding capacity but I want to try it again without abusing the throttle and see how long it lasts. Also there's less contamination now that I've run two filters through it.
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#3401507 - 06/19/14 01:10 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
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Registered: 12/11/13
Posts: 732
Loc: Manchester, England
Wow! After seeing pictures like that I'm shocked, its as bad as mine was when I first got it. I'm going on about 7 or 8000 miles on the current coolant and its still crystal clear and blue, but after being reminded of the horrors I found i'm definitely getting a filter plumbed in. Thanks to everyone involved in this thread, its been super-helpful to me smile
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#3401775 - 06/19/14 08:27 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: cheesepuffs]
MinamiKotaro Offline


Registered: 08/01/12
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Loc: TN
Originally Posted By: cheesepuffs
Why bother? 99.99% of all cars on the road don't have a coolant filter. No OEM finds them necessary so why should you?


Because I can.
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#3407878 - 06/26/14 07:24 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
yvon_la Offline


Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 740
Loc: quebec canada
I ll take big truck for exemple .at one point engine faillure was bad,coolant would eat the cylinder liner and the block .they added filter.it didnt fix the problem ,later it was found that the culprit was silicate in coolant .even tho the trouble waz found coolant filter were so inexpensive that they were kept,why?on paper coolant call for distilled water now a day !since maker were afraid people would use plain tap water and basicly bring the trouble back they kept the filter ,most use premix now a day but some old school trucker mix their own so potential for problem is there .but if you use a premixed coolant and flush properly prior to new liquid?bof i doubt you will ever see the need for a coolant filter.probably better to put an engine oil cooler. 15 psi inside the coolant so make sure what you put can accept that
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#3485528 - 09/17/14 05:44 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Biggest reason for a coolant filter was in the early days of SCAs, namely SCA-2, combined with old school high silicate green coolant, would drop silica out of the coolant & start filling up the cooling system with sand. The '89 IDI 7.3 in my sig had no coolant filter (nor any SCAs) when I bought it, and my first coolant filter I installed (with new coolant) picked up a decent amount of silica drop-out, the 2nd one looked a lot better. I could run G-05, or even an ELC, but my old engine's gaskets weren't designed for them, & a cheap coolant filter change with 2 units of SCA-2 once a year is keeping things looking good.
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#3490659 - 09/22/14 11:38 PM Re: Would a coolant filter make a difference to a UCA? [Re: Olas]
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Registered: 05/21/12
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Loc: Lighthouse Point, FL
Why do I run a coolant filter? I bought my car with 134k miles on it. I have no idea what was the service history of it, but I could see rust, scale, and even stop-leak flakes in the coolant.

God only knows what's been done to it. So do I sit around and wait for trash to fall off and plug my system, kill my water pump, plug my heater core, or do I do something about it?

Here's a coolant filter from a vehicle that the OEM never spec'd one for:



And another:



Obviously coolant filters do something.

Benefits? If there's any crud in your system, its getting caught.

Drawbacks? Few ounces more coolant you have to use?

Granted, I've torn down plenty of engines where the original coolant left the engine mirror spotless after 150k+ miles in service, but then there's this GM 502 crate engine with 15k miles on it, that I had to use a sledgehammer and screwdriver AFTER removing the block plugs to get anything to come out. Nice when your $13k engine accidentally becomes a pseudo half-fill of hard-block.

Should you soil your drawers and bite your nails until you have a coolant filter? No.

But if you do decide to add one, you are not making a mistake.
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