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#3322389 - 03/24/14 07:46 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: Mfrank84]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: Mfrank84
I know everyone is just waiting for someone to mention Harbor Freight jack stands.

Its inevitable. Someone is looking for quality stuff and Horror Freight gets tossed into the mix. LOL
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#3322448 - 03/24/14 08:25 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: Trav]
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Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2661
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Mfrank84
I know everyone is just waiting for someone to mention Harbor Freight jack stands.

Its inevitable. Someone is looking for quality stuff and Horror Freight gets tossed into the mix. LOL


Why not? They work well for me and have for 20 years now, but then I use them on compact to mid size cars, not semi tractors. Common sense to the fore front.

Living fugal has allowed me to retire at 58.


Edited by jcwit (03/24/14 08:27 PM)

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#3322464 - 03/24/14 08:37 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: jcwit]
Trav Offline


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I legally retired at 48 and don't live especially frugal so how does that effect the price of air at gas stations?
You want to buy Horror Freight stuff thats your business but when some is looking for quality thats not the store to look for it.
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#3322471 - 03/24/14 08:43 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: MI_Roger]
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Legally retired at 53 , Love my HF
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#3322504 - 03/24/14 09:15 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: JDW]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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It make no difference when anyone retired or how someone chooses to spend their money.
The OP said he was favoring American made and didn't mind spending a little more. He didn't ask how the US made products stack up against HF stuff.
IMO HF doesn't even belong in the thread.

Living frugal by buying from HF isn't going to make a lick of a difference in the amount of money you save for retirement.
In fact it could be just the opposite, buy cheap stuff and replace it numerous times vs buying quality once is a fools errand.
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#3322624 - 03/24/14 11:11 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: MI_Roger]
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Anything that not made in China.
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#3322630 - 03/24/14 11:32 PM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: Trav]
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Registered: 12/14/02
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Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: Trav
It make no difference when anyone retired or how someone chooses to spend their money.
The OP said he was favoring American made and didn't mind spending a little more. He didn't ask how the US made products stack up against HF stuff.
IMO HF doesn't even belong in the thread.

Living frugal by buying from HF isn't going to make a lick of a difference in the amount of money you save for retirement.
In fact it could be just the opposite, buy cheap stuff and replace it numerous times vs buying quality once is a fools errand.




Exactly.

The only folly is thinking that buying HF is somehow going to magically create retirement bliss, or the worse aspect, that somehow people buying locally made items to keep their fellow countrymen employed are to be belittled for whatever reason. Its just so weird.

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#3322729 - 03/25/14 07:13 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: Trav]
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 20705
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Trav
It make no difference when anyone retired or how someone chooses to spend their money.
The OP said he was favoring American made and didn't mind spending a little more. He didn't ask how the US made products stack up against HF stuff.
IMO HF doesn't even belong in the thread.

Living frugal by buying from HF isn't going to make a lick of a difference in the amount of money you save for retirement.
In fact it could be just the opposite, buy cheap stuff and replace it numerous times vs buying quality once is a fools errand.




I agree. While I have nothing against HF and do buy certain items from them, I know that if buying from them is going to have any measurable impact on my retirement I have real problems. Or I buy a lotttttttttttttttt of stuff I don't need. LOL
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#3322760 - 03/25/14 07:51 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: MI_Roger]
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We are not assisting the OP very much.

Sadly, JCWIT is correct that US Made does not guarantee quality.

Stephen1966 will concur that there are numerous threads at garagejournal.com bemoaning US Jacks and Hein Werner (US version) with poor quality welds. Here's one of many: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148786
"Yah the welds are pitiful, the paint looks crummy because they are packed very poorly in the box"
"Yep, i made a similar thread a little while ago. Sorely disappointed with the QC on the HW jack stands. One of the arms didnt even fit into the stand without a hammer."
"I would not accept that quality, especially since you paid well over double what a better looking import set would cost."


From Benjamming's excellent suggestions, the US Jack seems to be the best value, but I would insist at ordering time that the welds are excellent, or they will be returned.

We drive our families around on Chinese rotors, so if and when US made jackstands become extinct, we will have to determine which of the imports are good quality. This is what we should be doing here. First, the OP needs to determine which jack "pad" design he likes best. I am at a loss for determining quality beyond fit and finish. Ideas, anyone??

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#3322803 - 03/25/14 08:42 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: Trav]
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Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2661
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: Trav

In fact it could be just the opposite, buy cheap stuff and replace it numerous times vs buying quality once is a fools errand.




Have yet to replace 1 item at Harbor Freight with money out of my pocket. Most everything from there except power tools carries a lifetime guarantee.

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#3322806 - 03/25/14 08:45 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: Trav]
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Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2661
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: Trav


Living frugal by buying from HF isn't going to make a lick of a difference in the amount of money you save for retirement.




So saving money and creating a nest egg has nothing to do with having money for retirement? Your logic escapes me as does your knowledge of finance.

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#3322810 - 03/25/14 08:50 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: NormanBuntz]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 2661
Loc: no. indiana
Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
Anything that not made in China.


Check the country of origin of your computer.

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#3322859 - 03/25/14 09:43 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: jcwit]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 9089
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: Trav


Living frugal by buying from HF isn't going to make a lick of a difference in the amount of money you save for retirement.




So saving money and creating a nest egg has nothing to do with having money for retirement? Your logic escapes me as does your knowledge of finance.


How in hades do you know what i know or not about finances?
What does this have to do with jack stands or HF for that matter. You having a bad day or what?
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#3322863 - 03/25/14 09:44 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: jcwit]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 9089
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
Anything that not made in China.


Check the country of origin of your computer.


Panasonic Toughbook and Fujitsu both Made in JAPAN. LOL



Edited by Trav (03/25/14 09:51 AM)
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#3322949 - 03/25/14 10:49 AM Re: Best Jack Stands for home mechanic work?? [Re: doitmyself]
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Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 2427
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
We are not assisting the OP very much.

Sadly, JCWIT is correct that US Made does not guarantee quality.

Stephen1966 will concur that there are numerous threads at garagejournal.com bemoaning US Jacks and Hein Werner (US version) with poor quality welds. Here's one of many: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148786
"Yah the welds are pitiful, the paint looks crummy because they are packed very poorly in the box"
"Yep, i made a similar thread a little while ago. Sorely disappointed with the QC on the HW jack stands. One of the arms didnt even fit into the stand without a hammer."
"I would not accept that quality, especially since you paid well over double what a better looking import set would cost."


From Benjamming's excellent suggestions, the US Jack seems to be the best value, but I would insist at ordering time that the welds are excellent, or they will be returned.

We drive our families around on Chinese rotors, so if and when US made jackstands become extinct, we will have to determine which of the imports are good quality. This is what we should be doing here. First, the OP needs to determine which jack "pad" design he likes best. I am at a loss for determining quality beyond fit and finish. Ideas, anyone??


I think people get a little too worked up over the appearance of jack stand welds on GJ. I personally wouldn't have any problem with the welds seen on any of the US Jack stands that have been posted on Garage Journal.

There's never been any evidence posted that the US Jack stands posted on GJ (or any other jack stand weld complained about) were in any way unsafe or didn't meet their rated load. Some people there just get mad that they're not pretty enough.

Here's a relevant snippet from a thread on GJ:
Quote:

And, I can already predict how this thread will go, since they're all the same:
-Someone will claim that you'll surely die if you buy a low-priced jack stand because they sometimes have ugly welds. They may even point to one of the few failures, or claimed failures, posted online.
-Someone else will point out that low-priced jack stands are sold by the millions and there are very, very few reports of failure, and some of those failures don't even really appear to be failures.
-Someone will say you should spend big money on Hein Werner or US Jack stands. They'll claim you're cheap if you don't buy the expensive stands and you shouldn't try to save a buck on safety equipment.
-Someone will point out that there are complaints about the quality of the welds on both US Jack and Hein Werner stands.
-Someone will show pictures of stands they made.
-The thread will end with everyone thinking everyone else is stupid.

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