Recent Topics
New safety spec for 2017 F1 cars...
by mcrn
05/28/16 03:35 PM
M1-101 after 10k on a 95 Sunfire 2.2 OHV pushrod
by slacktide_bitog
05/28/16 03:18 PM
Base Oil Content and Marketing
by MolaKule
05/28/16 03:08 PM
Best OTC fuel injector cleaner
by 007
05/28/16 03:06 PM
A brief BMW R1100RT story
by Finn
05/28/16 02:29 PM
2015 6.7L Powerstroke Fuel Filter Change
by 2015_PSD
05/28/16 12:51 PM
Caliper question
by supton
05/28/16 12:48 PM
Impressed with Yokohama Geolander A/T G015
by K20FA5
05/28/16 12:13 PM
Need a good tire pressure guage that read over 60
by MetalSlug
05/28/16 11:55 AM
Castrol 0w40 vs M1 0w40 FS ?
by Ndx
05/28/16 11:14 AM
what old Snapper parts to save
by edwardh1
05/28/16 10:56 AM
Interesting lunch hour
by Urshurak776
05/28/16 10:10 AM
Newest Members
mungchimp, troutwest66, AIRJAC3, bpete65, LEVY
58001 Registered Users
Who's Online
82 registered (87sammy, 2015_PSD, 2KBMW, 2K2AcuraTL, 340six, 04SE, 8 invisible), 1771 Guests and 321 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
58001 Members
66 Forums
249529 Topics
4084783 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#3311148 - 03/13/14 09:40 PM Moog suspension parts - quality??
garlicbreadman Offline


Registered: 06/14/10
Posts: 851
Loc: USA
Has anyone used Moog suspension parts? im looking to get a pair of trailing arm bushings and front lower control arms.

Im really concerned about how well the bushings will hold up. Oem is the way to go but considering the moog lower control arm is only 70 compared to 250+ for oem, i wouldnt mind giving it a try if the bushings are acceptable.

If you've had experience with MOOG aftermarket suspension parts, please share! Thank you.
it's going on my 01 acura integra with 155k miles. The rubber bushings are still good for now but i do see some surface cracks. I say it's held up well for being on coilovers for 100k miles and being driven in primarily SF.

Top
#3311154 - 03/13/14 09:44 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8054
Loc: Florida
Some MOOGs are great, some are average, some are worse than OEM. Do you know someone with a Beck/Arnley part? Usually those are OEM at a lower price.

Ever consider buying an OEM bushing, and paying an automotive machinist press it in for around $20?
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#3311169 - 03/13/14 09:54 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 37994
Loc: New Jersey
Ive always been satisfied, but Id give them a good look over...

Top
#3311170 - 03/13/14 09:54 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: artificialist]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 37994
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Do you know someone with a Beck/Arnley part? Usually those are OEM at a lower price.



Says who? Interesting...

Top
#3311171 - 03/13/14 09:54 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
vssjim Offline


Registered: 10/05/11
Posts: 385
Loc: McLean, Va.
The parts for alot of japo cars are sold by Moog but made by a company called "555" and are fairly good. some are made by Moog but probably not a control arm for your application


Edited by vssjim (03/13/14 09:54 PM)

Top
#3311172 - 03/13/14 09:56 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: JHZR2]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8054
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Do you know someone with a Beck/Arnley part? Usually those are OEM at a lower price.



Says who? Interesting...


I have used them often. You can get them at Carquest.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#3311177 - 03/13/14 10:00 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
Wampahoofus Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 158
Loc: WI
I use Moog stuff often as well. Lifetime warranty on most parts! Federal Mogul, their parent company, generally has some of the better aftermarket stuff - IMHO of course.

I'm assuming you're buying the lower control arms to replace the lower ball joints. (Maybe not, I don't know anything about Hondas.) I've had very good luck with tie rod ends and ball joints from them, partly because they're generally not lubed-for-life.
_________________________
13 Triumph T100 - M1 V-Twin 20w50/4T 10w40
74 MG Midget 1275 - Rotella T 15W40
94 Jaguar XJS - Rotella T 15W40, a drum at a time

Top
#3311202 - 03/13/14 10:18 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
stephen9666 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 3161
Loc: USA
I think Moog has more than one quality level. If you perform a search you'll find more. It was something with a letter designation, like "R" and "K" or something.

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Do you know someone with a Beck/Arnley part? Usually those are OEM at a lower price.



Says who? Interesting...


It's well known that a good number of B/A parts are rebranded OE parts or at least sourced from the OE manufacturers. Some will come in branded OE packaging with an additional B/A sticker or inside a B/A box.

However, I wouldn't says they're "usually" rebranded genuine parts. Some are, some aren't. They also say they use suppliers that "match OE."

They talk about it in some of their videos and show pics:
http://www.youtube.com/user/beckarnley1


Top
#3311203 - 03/13/14 10:19 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 6206
Loc: out there
I'm trying to decide the same thing. Saturn/GM no longer makes oem strut mounts for s-series saturns. My choices are ac/delco( aftermarket) Moog, Monroe/napa, kyb, or sachs. Some say sachs and kyb are the same.
In the 80's moog was very good, i don't know today, so much has been moved to china.
_________________________
13 elantra 46k 5w30 ultra
03 chevy avalanche67k pyb
02 saturnsc1 66k 0w40 castrol
01 saturnsc1 185k being rebuilt
93 ciera 79k 5w30 havo

Top
#3311280 - 03/13/14 11:58 PM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
garlicbreadman Offline


Registered: 06/14/10
Posts: 851
Loc: USA
here is the control arm that i was looking at
http://www.amazon.com/Moog-RK620046-Cont...gra+control+arm

Originally Posted By: artificialist

Ever consider buying an OEM bushing, and paying an automotive machinist press it in for around $20?


Not a bad idea considering there are 2 bushings that total 40 bucks from acura. Another $20 to press and install...might just be a better idea than gambling with an aftermarket brand.


Edited by garlicbreadman (03/13/14 11:59 PM)

Top
#3311296 - 03/14/14 12:29 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
garlicbreadman Offline


Registered: 06/14/10
Posts: 851
Loc: USA
I got an odd question, so odd, i don't know if im asking it correctly...

A shop press usually is at least 12 tons and i have a floor jack that is 3 tons, are those "ton" readings the same way? Is the shop press 4 times as strong as my floor jack?

I read that 12 tons should be the minimum and a 20 ton is preferred for a shop press. I mean, if my 3 ton jack can lift up a car in the air, wouldn't it be able to press in a bushing?

I was thinking about using my floor jack to press in a bushing somehow...

Top
#3311339 - 03/14/14 03:11 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
PandaBear Offline


Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 13242
Loc: Silicon Valley
floor jack is insufficient to press bushing. You really need at least 20 tons to reliably press bushing.
_________________________
"You keep asking questions PandaBear and you'll end up a vegetarian like my wife" - Camu Mahubah

Top
#3311349 - 03/14/14 04:18 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
slowdime Offline


Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 413
Loc: Cascadia
I just replaced all 4 ball joints on my s10 with moogs. made in usa, good quality part. so long as you don't get a bottom of the barrel brand you should be ok
_________________________
2002 Chevy Cavalier 2.2 OHV
2002 Chevy S10 2.2 RIP
2007 Mazda 3 2.0

Top
#3311358 - 03/14/14 05:13 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: artificialist]
NHGUY Offline


Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 4615
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Do you know someone with a Beck/Arnley part? Usually those are OEM at a lower price.



Says who? Interesting...


I have used them often. You can get them at Carquest.


I hear that Advance Auto Parts is in the process of gobbling up Car Quest.

Top
#3311372 - 03/14/14 05:42 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
ronbo Offline


Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 800
Loc: western ny, usa
Try Deeza, made in Turkey, high quality parts at a reasonable price. 2yr 40,000mile warranty. Available at rockauto.com


Edited by ronbo (03/14/14 05:44 AM)

Top
#3311374 - 03/14/14 05:56 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 29149
Loc: ME
^ Yeah Deeza has that up-and-coming reputation.

I've had decent luck with Moog and TRW. TRW was rumored to be OE for my Saturn s-series. Remember many of these guys are also OE suppliers-- if you're going to run a suspension factory you'd do well to partner with new car factories.

Country of Origin varies from part to part-- one brand I saw sitting on a shelf had three part numbers, one each from USA, China, and Turkey.

Top
#3311380 - 03/14/14 06:06 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 13794
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: garlicbreadman
Has anyone used Moog suspension parts? im looking to get a pair of trailing arm bushings and front lower control arms.

Im really concerned about how well the bushings will hold up. Oem is the way to go but considering the moog lower control arm is only 70 compared to 250+ for oem, i wouldnt mind giving it a try if the bushings are acceptable.

If you've had experience with MOOG aftermarket suspension parts, please share! Thank you.
it's going on my 01 acura integra with 155k miles. The rubber bushings are still good for now but i do see some surface cracks. I say it's held up well for being on coilovers for 100k miles and being driven in primarily SF.

Moog at one time was very good now its just a name, mostly mid grade quality stuff.
The RK line is considered mid grade by Moog, meaning maybe slightly better than white box or white box with better warranty but not much more.

Chances are better than good this part is third world manufacture and low quality, personally i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. The part is critical for proper handling and alignment.

Seeing its for an Acura i would go with in order of preference OEM, Beck&Arnley (good chance it is an OEM part), Deeza, Raybestos Pro if available.
Mevotech, Moog and white box are not on the list.

There are still a few NOS Moog products around but you have to look at them first, this part was never on the list.
Screwed up zerk threads, incorrect angle zerks, cheap Mickey Mouse boots, off center holes, poor overall quality are all to common with Moog these days.
In 40 years i have only had trouble with two brands of front end parts that cost me time, money and were genuinely poor quality items. Moog and Mevotech.
_________________________
ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.

Top
#3313307 - 03/16/14 04:59 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: garlicbreadman]
david_ES2 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 598
Loc: Fresno, CA
Moog is a mixed bag of globally sourced parts. especially for imports, some of its good, decent, or junk. Whatever they make for themselves is either made in usa or mexico.

I had a moog sway link go bad at the joint not too long ago, it started to make popping sounds, lasted about a year and a half. Part was made in mexico if it means anything, did a warranty exhange on it and all is well so far.

Recently seeing some moog brand made in china bushings and i expect more to come.
_________________________
2004 Honda Civic EX K20Z1 5w30 PP WIX XP


Top
#3313393 - 03/16/14 08:26 AM Re: Moog suspension parts - quality?? [Re: NHGUY]
moklock Offline


Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 520
Loc: FL
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Do you know someone with a Beck/Arnley part? Usually those are OEM at a lower price.



Says who? Interesting...


I have used them often. You can get them at Carquest.


I hear that Advance Auto Parts is in the process of gobbling up Car Quest.


Yes they are. Haven't yet heard when the funeral for CarQuest will be held.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >