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#3308074 - 03/11/14 08:36 AM One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done
chestand Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 128
Loc: Kansas City
1997 Thunderbird - 4.6 Modular

I've read that the 4.6 SOHC is a great motor. I'm sure it is, but given enough time, they all seem to develop an oil leak around the oil filter adapter. It's a casting on the driver's side of the engine block down low in the front. The gasket is a composite with the orange sealing rings built into it. The gasket seals the oil filter input/output and the lower radiator hose output. In time, the rings sealing the oil passages crush down flat and oil leaks around the adapter. Because of the way the engine is mounted in the T-bird, there is virtually no room to access the bolts that hold the adapter on. Even getting to the oil filter is a PITA. The engine was leaking a quart of oil every two days, so it had to be done. I had to go through the wheel well sway bar opening with 20 inches worth of extensions, a ujoint and a 10mm socket. Took a total of 5 hours start to finish. Not one of Ford's better ideas.

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#3308089 - 03/11/14 08:52 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 11486
Loc: apple valley, ca
Nice. Imo ford likes to make simple things miserable. It started with the lower thermostat housing bolt behind the timing cover on the 260,289,302
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#3308101 - 03/11/14 09:05 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13549
Loc: Upstate NY
I think the fuel pump on my Suburban was the worst for me. Lots of road dirt dropping on your face as you try and free up the fuel tank. Its heavy even when empty. Steel fuel lines that snap vs unscrewing. A bunch of waxy goo to remove that keeps the access plate clean.

Doing it the second time was easier but more annoying at having to do it a 2nd time in a year.
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#3308103 - 03/11/14 09:06 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 05/18/12
Posts: 1712
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Who was making you get the V8 when you could have gotten the smaller V6?

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#3308125 - 03/11/14 09:37 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: zzyzzx]
chestand Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 128
Loc: Kansas City
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
Who was making you get the V8 when you could have gotten the smaller V6?
I bought the car used. I took the engine that came in it....

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#3308165 - 03/11/14 10:30 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
Those can be a pain. I had the same thing happen on my Jeep. The oil filter adapter was leaking a ton of oil. Luckily, the Jeep is easy to work on. I could see the adapter when I opened the hood, but I still needed a breaker bar to break the bolt free. I can only imagine how hard of a job that is with limited room.
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#3308168 - 03/11/14 10:35 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: zzyzzx]
Colt45ws Offline


Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 7463
Loc: Central Washington
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
Who was making you get the V8 when you could have gotten the smaller V6?

Yes, get the 3.8L so you can feed it head gaskets.

A gasket went bad on a 17 year old engine with an unspecified number of miles. I guess its a bad engine.[/sarcasm]
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#3308188 - 03/11/14 11:03 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
ag_ghost Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 402
Loc: SF Bay Area, CA
Every car has some bits that are a PITA to service, including Fords. How about a timing chain on a 2001 Ecotec motor? Fuel filter on a 2000 Mazda 626? The list goes on.
In any event, congrats on getting it done.
Kevin
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#3308191 - 03/11/14 11:07 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: ag_ghost]
chestand Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 128
Loc: Kansas City
Originally Posted By: ag_ghost
Every car has some bits that are a PITA to service, including Fords. How about a timing chain on a 2001 Ecotec motor? Fuel filter on a 2000 Mazda 626? The list goes on.
In any event, congrats on getting it done.
Kevin

Thanks. As time goes on, you tend to forget repair based PITA's. I recall my brother's Saab 9-5 was never easy to do anything under the hood. At least I haven't had any of the Ford spark plugs launching out of the head to deal with yet.

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#3308214 - 03/11/14 11:36 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7420
Loc: Saskatoon canada
New threads in a 2v that spit a plug,especially when tight to the firewall. I had to take the hood off to thread the insert straight.
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#3308218 - 03/11/14 11:38 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Darwin1138 Offline


Registered: 01/07/14
Posts: 271
Loc: Mexico City
If you think Ford engineering is crazy wait until you work in a Renault Clio/Megane when every repair procedure starts with:

1. Lift the car in a two post hoist
2. Remove front wheels
3. Remove front mudguards
4. Remove front bumper
5. Remove front headlamps
6. Remove radiator support.
7. Support the engine and remove engine mounts.
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#3308234 - 03/11/14 11:58 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 4314
Loc: Michigan
I just replaced the power steering pump on my Camaro last week. It's up high on the front of the engine, but the two bolts that attach it to the cylinder head can only be accessed with an open end wrench, and you can only turn the bolts a half-flat at a time. Oh yes, the ABS module has to be dismounted and moved aside to get any access to the outboard bolt. All told, I was wrenching on those two bolts for about an hour to get them out.

Then I broke the phenolic pulley trying to get it off the pump and had to buy a new one. Then I tried to get smart, and had a local machine shop drill access holes in the new pulley so I could use a socket to run in the bolts. The access holes worked like a charm, and it only took me about 5 minutes to install the new pump. But now I'm worried about durability of my new phenolic pulley because the access holes are chipped at the corners and may cause the web to crack over time.

Some jobs just go wrong from the start.
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#3308240 - 03/11/14 12:07 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: A_Harman]
ls1mike Offline


Registered: 06/14/08
Posts: 3107
Loc: Bremerton Wa
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I just replaced the power steering pump on my Camaro last week. It's up high on the front of the engine, but the two bolts that attach it to the cylinder head can only be accessed with an open end wrench, and you can only turn the bolts a half-flat at a time. Oh yes, the ABS module has to be dismounted and moved aside to get any access to the outboard bolt. All told, I was wrenching on those two bolts for about an hour to get them out.

Then I broke the phenolic pulley trying to get it off the pump and had to buy a new one. Then I tried to get smart, and had a local machine shop drill access holes in the new pulley so I could use a socket to run in the bolts. The access holes worked like a charm, and it only took me about 5 minutes to install the new pump. But now I'm worried about durability of my new phenolic pulley because the access holes are chipped at the corners and may cause the web to crack over time.

Some jobs just go wrong from the start.

You are doing it wrong... cheers
Pull the pulley than go at. I have done the one in the Trans Am 45 minutes out and in. Never touched the ABS module.
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#3308339 - 03/11/14 02:04 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Vikas Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 8262
Loc: NorthEast
Quote:
I had to go through the wheel well sway bar opening with 20 inches worth of extensions, a ujoint and a 10mm socket. Took a total of 5 hours start to finish.
I do not know this engine but I don't quite understand why one implies other! I am assuming there can be no more than 3 bolts holding the thing you wanted to replace. Please explain the 5 hours.

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#3308386 - 03/11/14 03:01 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: ls1mike]
A_Harman Online   content


Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 4314
Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I just replaced the power steering pump on my Camaro last week. It's up high on the front of the engine, but the two bolts that attach it to the cylinder head can only be accessed with an open end wrench, and you can only turn the bolts a half-flat at a time. Oh yes, the ABS module has to be dismounted and moved aside to get any access to the outboard bolt. All told, I was wrenching on those two bolts for about an hour to get them out.

Then I broke the phenolic pulley trying to get it off the pump and had to buy a new one. Then I tried to get smart, and had a local machine shop drill access holes in the new pulley so I could use a socket to run in the bolts. The access holes worked like a charm, and it only took me about 5 minutes to install the new pump. But now I'm worried about durability of my new phenolic pulley because the access holes are chipped at the corners and may cause the web to crack over time.

Some jobs just go wrong from the start.

You are doing it wrong... cheers
Pull the pulley than go at. I have done the one in the Trans Am 45 minutes out and in. Never touched the ABS module.


How did you get the pulley off? It didn't look like there was enough room to install a puller with the pump in the car.
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#3308405 - 03/11/14 03:17 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: Vikas]
chestand Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 128
Loc: Kansas City
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Quote:
I had to go through the wheel well sway bar opening with 20 inches worth of extensions, a ujoint and a 10mm socket. Took a total of 5 hours start to finish.
I do not know this engine but I don't quite understand why one implies other! I am assuming there can be no more than 3 bolts holding the thing you wanted to replace. Please explain the 5 hours.

As usual, the job is complicated by the amount of stuff that has to come off, be drained out, etc. in order to be able to access the area and not be drenched by coolant.

Jack up left front, Remove wheel, Drain coolant, Remove battery and battery tray, Remove lower radiator hose, Remove oil filter,Remove power steering reservior return line,Drain power steering reservior, Remove 4 bolts holding adapter to engine, clean adapter surface, clean engine block, as the manuals say "reassembly is the reverse of disassembly."

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#3308424 - 03/11/14 03:41 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Fleetmon Offline


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 1060
Loc: Pa
The absolute worst repair job I ever did was replacing a leaking engine oil cooler in a 1986 Neoplan transit bus with a 6V71 DD. It was smack against the frame rail and had to come out as an assembly (cooler core and non-doweled cover and a bunch of bolts) with the bolts still through it....All the while dripping coolant and engine oil. Going back together was every bit as much fun but it was cleaner since my shirt had rubbed most of the dirt and grime off when I removed it.
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#3308473 - 03/11/14 04:33 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7420
Loc: Saskatoon canada
My 04 ram hemi was by far the most painful plug change experience ever.
The first 6 on the driver side are easy, it's the last 2 that are agonizing. I had to drop the plug in the hole,then the socket and short extension,then swivel,another extension then assemble the pieces,with 1 hand,blind,then crank them in. Pulling them out was a nightmare because I hadn't learned yet that the whole socket and extension needed to be assembled and disassembled in the plug hole.
And I had to lay on top of the engine getting poked and stabbed with whatever was sticking out.
Dodge wanted 800 bucks to change the plugs in my truck. It took me. 6.5 hours to do it.
I'd want 800 bucks to if I had to do it to someone else's vehicle.
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#3308562 - 03/11/14 05:44 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: Clevy]
AdRock Offline


Registered: 06/05/09
Posts: 729
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Clevy
My 04 ram hemi was by far the most painful plug change experience ever.
The first 6 on the driver side are easy, it's the last 2 that are agonizing. I had to drop the plug in the hole,then the socket and short extension,then swivel,another extension then assemble the pieces,with 1 hand,blind,then crank them in. Pulling them out was a nightmare because I hadn't learned yet that the whole socket and extension needed to be assembled and disassembled in the plug hole.
And I had to lay on top of the engine getting poked and stabbed with whatever was sticking out.
Dodge wanted 800 bucks to change the plugs in my truck. It took me. 6.5 hours to do it.
I'd want 800 bucks to if I had to do it to someone else's vehicle.


I just did the plugs on my buddies 04 ram hemi with 90k miles on it on Sunday. What a pain. Plus they were the original plugs and were in that engine very tight. I have a 24in. long ratchet that I was using to get the plugs out but had to use a 4ft. breaker bar to get a few loose. When it came to the back 2 cylinders on the drivers side I couldn't get enough leverage to even get them loose. It was about midnight when he said just leave them. He's going to get the shop that does his company cars to deal with them. Also, who was the moron designer that decided to put the egr pipe on the passenger side directly above the coils that really should be pulled straight out? IDIOT.
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#3308582 - 03/11/14 06:01 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
Kruse Offline


Registered: 10/05/05
Posts: 3074
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: chestand
1997 Thunderbird - 4.6 Modular

I've read that the 4.6 SOHC is a great motor. I'm sure it is, but given enough time, they all seem to develop an oil leak around the oil filter adapter.


I did this repair on my Mark VIII a few years ago. Yea, it was enough of a pain that I'm glad it was on my car instead of some customer who would be waiting for it. It's worth it, though, when you start the engine and there are no more leaks.

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#3308588 - 03/11/14 06:06 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: AdRock]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7420
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: AdRock
Originally Posted By: Clevy
My 04 ram hemi was by far the most painful plug change experience ever.
The first 6 on the driver side are easy, it's the last 2 that are agonizing. I had to drop the plug in the hole,then the socket and short extension,then swivel,another extension then assemble the pieces,with 1 hand,blind,then crank them in. Pulling them out was a nightmare because I hadn't learned yet that the whole socket and extension needed to be assembled and disassembled in the plug hole.
And I had to lay on top of the engine getting poked and stabbed with whatever was sticking out.
Dodge wanted 800 bucks to change the plugs in my truck. It took me. 6.5 hours to do it.
I'd want 800 bucks to if I had to do it to someone else's vehicle.


I just did the plugs on my buddies 04 ram hemi with 90k miles on it on Sunday. What a pain. Plus they were the original plugs and were in that engine very tight. I have a 24in. long ratchet that I was using to get the plugs out but had to use a 4ft. breaker bar to get a few loose. When it came to the back 2 cylinders on the drivers side I couldn't get enough leverage to even get them loose. It was about midnight when he said just leave them. He's going to get the shop that does his company cars to deal with them. Also, who was the moron designer that decided to put the egr pipe on the passenger side directly above the coils that really should be pulled straight out? IDIOT.



You got that right. When dodge told me 800 bucks I told them they were nuts. After doing it myself I now know why it costs 800 bucks,because its worth it.
The rear drivers side pair are unreal. I had to completely pull apart the socket and extensions,then reassemble blind.
I almost gave up however prior to the plug change I was getting 13mpg on the highway. So I was in awe at consumption.
After the plug change it settled down to 20mpg which I was satisfied with.
Truck had 240k at the time and the plugs looked stock and original.
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#3308601 - 03/11/14 06:30 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
ls1mike Offline


Registered: 06/14/08
Posts: 3107
Loc: Bremerton Wa
LT1 F-body plug and wire change. W-Body Power steering pump.
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#3308608 - 03/11/14 06:37 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 03/03/13
Posts: 450
Loc: Florida
I had that same ring changed on my mustang last year, I don't know how hard it was because my mechanic changed it but I remember picking that ring up at the dealer, the old one was flat.
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#3308709 - 03/11/14 08:19 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 7092
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My '90 T-Bird SC had one of the MOST complex/expensive to repair ABS systems I've ever heard of being installed in a car.

This is/was only thing in a Blue Oval product I could not stand/live with. wink
(This car's remote, dash adjustable damper setting system was also not very great, but an easy fix to just dump it for manually adjustable Konis. wink )
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#3308723 - 03/11/14 08:30 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: ls1mike]
Shaman Offline


Registered: 07/27/04
Posts: 2298
Loc: Frankfort, Kentucky
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
LT1 F-body plug and wire change. W-Body Power steering pump.


Heard horror stories about the F-bod stuff, but the L67 power steering pump wasn't too bad, aside from a busted knuckle. The coolant elbows weren't too great, and the location of the oil filter and intercooler pump on my LSJ aren't the greatest.

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#3309043 - 03/12/14 07:31 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: dailydriver]
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Registered: 09/03/10
Posts: 2622
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
My '90 T-Bird SC had one of the MOST complex/expensive to repair ABS systems I've ever heard of being installed in a car.

This is/was only thing in a Blue Oval product I could not stand/live with. wink
(This car's remote, dash adjustable damper setting system was also not very great, but an easy fix to just dump it for manually adjustable Konis. wink )


The Teves system, most 80s GMs with anti lock brakes used it as well, have same on my '88 T-Bird...

You guys ain't really been in bed with a Ford 4.6 till you've replaced the valve stem seals... I can do both sides on two older 5.0 and a half dozen thermostats changes, while doing just one side of the fat girl modular...

Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
Who was making you get the V8 when you could have gotten the smaller V6?

Yes, get the 3.8L so you can feed it head gaskets.

A gasket went bad on a 17 year old engine with an unspecified number of miles. I guess its a bad engine.[/sarcasm]


Ain't that the truth?? Look up POS in any newer Websters, a Ford 3.8 will be one of the examples... OK that's stretching the truth but it really should be there...

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#3309336 - 03/12/14 11:54 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 08/07/12
Posts: 295
Loc: TEXAS
All of the manufacturers are guilty of this at some point or another. Just a few of my fav's:

1. PCV valve on a Prius, should be <5min but if you don't have pencil thin arms, tiny hands and aircraft mechanic tools it ain't happening!

2. Starter on a '94 Chev 1 Ton Dually- Rt/F wheel and shroud come off. 2 Transmission and brake lines in the way of the 75 lb starter.

3. Water Pump- on the '07+ Tundra
Too much to list! Just Plain Stupid.
The dealer charges 4 hours labor!
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#3309828 - 03/12/14 07:49 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Everything on our old A4 - mostly because to replace one part - all the surrounding rubber/plastic would be disintegrated, it also started most procedures with 'put car in service mode', which meant, take the front off.

Except the front CV joints. Remarkably easy.
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#3309880 - 03/12/14 08:41 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: ls1mike]
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Registered: 05/26/07
Posts: 1468
Loc: West Michigan
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
LT1 F-body plug and wire change. W-Body Power steering pump.



Never again will I work on a LT-1 in a 4th generation F body.
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#3309992 - 03/12/14 10:20 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Loc: NJ
My mechanic buddy had one. Got it for free essentially and used it as his work car. He got so fed up with it; the amount of repair work necessary, and one night he just flipped out in his shop. He started beating the snot out of the car with tools, fists, boots ect.

Rather funny to watch
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#3310581 - 03/13/14 12:32 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 02/08/12
Posts: 441
Loc: Orlando, FL
Ever try changing spark plugs on a 5.4L V8 Triton engine in the F150s? Not fun if they break on you.

Every try doing the same thing but on a 4.3L GMC Jimmy? Also not that fun, but slightly easier ;-).

I recently changed the cabin air filter for my GF's ford fusion. A metal round bar blocked the filter panel. The filter ripped, but managed to get it off after using very long and thin pliers to get in there. Ended up taking 40 minutes to do.

In case you don't know, the filter is located behind the glove box, which is also difficult to remove than my car.

I have no complaints with my Hyundai. Foreign econo cars tend to be very easy to work on for the most part.

+1 on the 3.8L engines eating headgaskets...
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#3310634 - 03/13/14 01:11 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 02/08/13
Posts: 1350
Loc: Texas
Clutch job in a Porsche 944.

Not because the job was particularly difficult as far as clutch jobs went, but because the transmission is at the rear axle but it still has to be removed. Thankfully Porsche fixed this for the 968, allowing you to remove the torque tube separately from the gearbox, meaning that a clutch job might take a couple of hours instead of 8 to 12.

I've been told Corvettes since 1997 are a nightmare as well, as you literally have to separate the body from the frame to get to a couple of bolts on the back of the engine.
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#3310743 - 03/13/14 03:31 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: A_Harman]
dailydriver Offline


Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 7092
Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I just replaced the power steering pump on my Camaro last week. It's up high on the front of the engine, but the two bolts that attach it to the cylinder head can only be accessed with an open end wrench, and you can only turn the bolts a half-flat at a time. Oh yes, the ABS module has to be dismounted and moved aside to get any access to the outboard bolt. All told, I was wrenching on those two bolts for about an hour to get them out.

Then I broke the phenolic pulley trying to get it off the pump and had to buy a new one. Then I tried to get smart, and had a local machine shop drill access holes in the new pulley so I could use a socket to run in the bolts. The access holes worked like a charm, and it only took me about 5 minutes to install the new pump. But now I'm worried about durability of my new phenolic pulley because the access holes are chipped at the corners and may cause the web to crack over time.

Some jobs just go wrong from the start.


^^^This is why I went with a Turn One modded pump and their own OEM sized, alloy pulley (with access sections cut into it) already installed and racing wire-tied. wink
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#3310750 - 03/13/14 03:37 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: HM12460]
dailydriver Offline


Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 7092
Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
Originally Posted By: HM12460
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
LT1 F-body plug and wire change. W-Body Power steering pump.



Never again will I work on a LT-1 in a 4th generation F body.


The plug change on an LS1 4th gen is not much better. frown
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#3310854 - 03/13/14 05:29 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Loc: Irvine, CA
Simple thing like replacing headlight bulb in 2006 Volvo V70 is pain in the behind. The full power low beam is used as DRL and it burnt out in less than 1-2 years, replacing it took more than 30 minutes. Right now I use long life Philips H11 bulb to extend it to 2-4 years.

Replacing headlight bulb in the E430 is no more than 1-2 minutes.
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#3311057 - 03/13/14 08:41 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 02/02/12
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Loc: New England
Worst ever: heater core or AC evaporator on a 1997+ Jeep Cherokee!
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#3311066 - 03/13/14 08:50 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: dailydriver]
ls1mike Offline


Registered: 06/14/08
Posts: 3107
Loc: Bremerton Wa
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: HM12460
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
LT1 F-body plug and wire change. W-Body Power steering pump.



Never again will I work on a LT-1 in a 4th generation F body.


The plug change on an LS1 4th gen is not much better. frown

Headers help. The wires are easier.
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#3311144 - 03/13/14 09:37 PM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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After I replaced the water pump on a Chrysler Sebring 2.7, I got terrible flashbacks for a month every time I saw a Chrysler Sebring.
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#3312501 - 03/15/14 07:45 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Loc: Oregon coast
The worst for me was dropping an engine from a toyota previa to clean carbon from the EGR passages.
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#3312585 - 03/15/14 09:45 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Registered: 05/10/05
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Loc: Jupiter, Fl
Oooh. Previa. I had the original Toyota van (2 of them) and my neighbor had a previa w/ SC.

Those were both nightmares for anything more than an oil change.
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#3312622 - 03/15/14 10:50 AM Re: One of the most hateful repairs I've ever done [Re: chestand]
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Working under the hood on American vehicles like my truck. Nothing is laid out with the guy who has to fix it in mind.

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