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#3304623 - 03/07/14 03:36 PM Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7312
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Today I noticed a burning oil smell on the DGC. The van has just over 8K miles on it. I don't drive it nearly as often as my wife. Having recently done my own oil change, the first thing I checked was my work. Not a drop around the o/f housing, dry as a bone around the oil pan drain plug, oil filler, etc. No signs of motor oil dribblage, but yet you can clearly smell it under the hood with a hot engine.

Jacked the front off the ground and crawled under to find all kinds of red wetness around the power steering pump.

It's funny too, because our van made a cold start moan/whine/wirring noise when we first got it and it eventually stopped doing it.

FWIW, the PS pump looks extremely unpleasant to remove/replace on the Pentastar. It's buried in there.

Gotta check our schedules and make a dealer appt. Wonderful.
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#3304641 - 03/07/14 03:52 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
2oldtommy Offline


Registered: 10/29/06
Posts: 837
Loc: Ohio
You lucked out. Your van is still under the 3yr./36k mile warranty. FWIW

Oldtommy

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#3304666 - 03/07/14 04:17 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
hypervish Offline


Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 1521
Loc: new jersey
Good thing it's got warranty. Bit early for a pump to go out though, better think about getting extended warranty.
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#3304731 - 03/07/14 05:29 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
Posts: 3668
Loc: Ottawa
Ours has that PS whine too. I'll be keeping an eye on it after reading this.
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#3304828 - 03/07/14 07:31 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
crazyoildude Offline


Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 5482
Loc: new jersey
I heard this on my neighbors new Grand caravan i thought it sounded like the power steering or maybe a trans noise.

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#3304831 - 03/07/14 07:42 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
Corollaman Offline


Registered: 11/20/13
Posts: 23
Loc: Eastern Wa
Welcome to the wonderful world of Dodge Grand Caravan ownership (I have a 2005). Let's just say be ready for many, many more issues. My wife loves the thing but so do the repair shops. Good luck.

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#3304834 - 03/07/14 07:47 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: Corollaman]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7437
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
Welcome to the wonderful world of Dodge Grand Caravan ownership (I have a 2005). Let's just say be ready for many, many more issues. My wife loves the thing but so do the repair shops. Good luck.


Huh.
I wonder when stuffs going to start failing on my charger. It's an 06 and 70000+ miles and nothing has blown up yet.
I must be lucky
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#3305436 - 03/08/14 02:07 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 6158
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Not sure it's fair to compare an 05 to a 2013 but what domestic vehicle doesn't have its issues?
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#3305631 - 03/08/14 06:38 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7312
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Thinking back, I've owned three minivans: 2001 Ford Windstar LX, 2008 Honda Odyssey LX and now the 2013 Grand Caravan.

Every one of them had P-steering problems! The windstar got a new steering rack under warranty due to leakage.

The Odyssey had issues from day one with a noisy pump and basically no p-steering (at times) during parking lot maneuvers. Honda did replace the PSF reservior and suction hose to pump per a TSB/recall. It helped some, but not much. We lived with it.

Now a basically brand new van with a pump covered in red, right near exhaust of course.. YAYYY!!

Have to schedule something with the dealer this week hopefully.
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#3305694 - 03/08/14 07:44 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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One of the only major repairs i've had to do to my taurus was a new rack because it went from nothing to leaking epic amounts out of the seal.
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#3306479 - 03/09/14 08:06 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: Clevy]
Corollaman Offline


Registered: 11/20/13
Posts: 23
Loc: Eastern Wa
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
Welcome to the wonderful world of Dodge Grand Caravan ownership (I have a 2005). Let's just say be ready for many, many more issues. My wife loves the thing but so do the repair shops. Good luck.


Huh.
I wonder when stuffs going to start failing on my charger. It's an 06 and 70000+ miles and nothing has blown up yet.
I must be lucky


Yes, you are extremely lucky.

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#3306488 - 03/09/14 08:14 PM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: 901Memphis]
Corollaman Offline


Registered: 11/20/13
Posts: 23
Loc: Eastern Wa
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Not sure it's fair to compare an 05 to a 2013 but what domestic vehicle doesn't have its issues?


Whenever I'm at the local dodge dealer for parts (2005 GC), there seems to be a larger number of Caravans in for repairs (newer ones 2009+) than any other model.
I asked the service guy about it once.."no comment".

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#3308032 - 03/11/14 07:41 AM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
Oldmoparguy1 Offline


Registered: 01/21/05
Posts: 4068
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Dang! That shouldn't be. I'm on my 5th. Caravan/GC. Just have not had those kind of problems. Granted, my 2013 GC has been in the shop 3 times since last June, but they were all trivial things. I hope that's the end of it since we just turned over 32,000 miles.

Good luck,

Wayne
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#3336760 - 04/08/14 11:21 AM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7312
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Follow up.

Dealer confirmed the PS pump is leaking. Of course they don't have a replacement pump in stock. I love this. How can you run a huge service dept and not have something as basic as a PS pump in house? I know no-one leaves anything on a shelf so to speak any more, but really?

3-5 days to get a replacement in. Now I get to figure out how to get the van back in again. Had a nice 90min shuttle ride home (all thru the 'hood and whatnot), only to have them call 30min after I got home to tell me they're done with it for now. Yay!


Edited by JTK (04/08/14 11:22 AM)
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#3336764 - 04/08/14 11:24 AM Re: Power steering pump leak, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan [Re: JTK]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
Posts: 3668
Loc: Ottawa
Hmm.. wonder if this issue will be more widespread. I looked under the van last week and there were no signs of leakage... yet.
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