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#3303624 - 03/06/14 06:01 PM "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6
Verminator Offline


Registered: 04/14/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC CANADA
So I've found out the hard way that regular M1 synthetic (5W30) makes my 2004 Hyundai Santa Fe enginer VERY noisey, espeically on start up. I plan to give Quaker State Uldimate Durability a try next, as well as M1HM 5W30 to see if it makes the motor run more "quiet and smooth".

My wife has a 2005 Nissan Frontier pick-up, 4.0L v6 auto at 170,000 km on the clock. It currently runs just perfect with dino Castrol GTX.

I do have a fair amount of Mobil 1 5W30 in stock that I need to use up, so I've heard from at least one Nissan owner on these forums that Nissan notors run nice and smooth on most oils.

Doeas anyone here have a 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 auto that has any experience in a nice quiet synthetic oil for this vehicle? I "get" that the noise may not necessarily equate to engine wear, but I'm done with the noise. Quiet and smooth is what I'm looking for, but in a full synthetic.

I'm also intending to use Napa/WIX Gold filters on the Nissan, which is what I currently use.
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2004 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4L - M1 5W30 + OEM
2009 Hyundai Accent 1.6L - PYB 5W20 dino + OEM
2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L - Castrol GTX 5W30 dino + Napa Gold

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#3303630 - 03/06/14 06:09 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 9938
Loc: South Texas,USA
I'd stick with the GTX. Excellent oil.


Edited by aquariuscsm (03/06/14 06:10 PM)
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Syntec 10W40/Fram Ultra
Amsoil MTG(tranny)
Amsoil 80W90 GL5(rear diff)
Mobil 1 ATF
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#3303639 - 03/06/14 06:17 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
Sierra048 Offline


Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 271
Loc: Georgia
We've got the same engine in a 2005 Nissan Xterra. After 83k miles and proper maintanence, this engine has purred like a kitten on any oil I've ever used in it and it's still going strong with 5k OCI's. Some of the oils I've used include Walmart ST, PYB, NAPA Syn, QS syn, currently Valvoline Max Life and a few others I've forgotten. Next up is some Kendall synthetic I recently got from a local distributor.


Edited by Mfrank84 (03/06/14 06:18 PM)
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#3303647 - 03/06/14 06:21 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: aquariuscsm]
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Registered: 04/14/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC CANADA
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I'd stick with the GTX. Excellent oil.


Thanks. So you're suggesting I just stick with the dino oil and not go synthetic?

My wife tends to agree with you if this is in fact your suggestion. as she says, "if it's not broke, don't fix it".
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2004 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4L - M1 5W30 + OEM
2009 Hyundai Accent 1.6L - PYB 5W20 dino + OEM
2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L - Castrol GTX 5W30 dino + Napa Gold

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#3303655 - 03/06/14 06:27 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 9938
Loc: South Texas,USA
Originally Posted By: Verminator
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I'd stick with the GTX. Excellent oil.


Thanks. So you're suggesting I just stick with the dino oil and not go synthetic?

My wife tends to agree with you if this is in fact your suggestion. as she says, "if it's not broke, don't fix it".


Absolutely!!
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1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Syntec 10W40/Fram Ultra
Amsoil MTG(tranny)
Amsoil 80W90 GL5(rear diff)
Mobil 1 ATF
Redline Water Wetter

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#3303689 - 03/06/14 06:53 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
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Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 1361
Loc: NYC
My localized VG33E's and 1&3MZ-FE's have always had noise brought out in them by regular Mobil 1. EP and AFE are strangely not a problem.
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#3303695 - 03/06/14 06:57 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: michaelluscher]
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Registered: 04/14/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC CANADA
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
My localized VG33E's and 1&3MZ-FE's have always had noise brought out in them by regular Mobil 1. EP and AFE are strangely not a problem.


What about the M1 HM varient? Is it "quieter" than the regular M1 as well?
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2004 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4L - M1 5W30 + OEM
2009 Hyundai Accent 1.6L - PYB 5W20 dino + OEM
2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L - Castrol GTX 5W30 dino + Napa Gold

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#3303704 - 03/06/14 07:04 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
michaelluscher Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 1361
Loc: NYC
Originally Posted By: Verminator
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
My localized VG33E's and 1&3MZ-FE's have always had noise brought out in them by regular Mobil 1. EP and AFE are strangely not a problem.


What about the M1 HM varient? Is it "quieter" than the regular M1 as well?


Never used any HM oils in these. Never felt the need.
I may try Defy with all it's extra ZDDP/Boron/Moly due to the SL/SM spec, See how that sounds
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#3303722 - 03/06/14 07:21 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
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Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 9871
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Verminator
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
My localized VG33E's and 1&3MZ-FE's have always had noise brought out in them by regular Mobil 1. EP and AFE are strangely not a problem.


What about the M1 HM varient? Is it "quieter" than the regular M1 as well?


You need to realize that XM sells millions of quarts of M1 5-30 every year. The vast majority of these buyers do not share your opinion that reg M1 5-30 causes their engines to be noisier than normal. For example, my daughter has, amoung here vehicles, a 2009 Infinity full size SUV with a V8. Here husband changes the oil between 10-15K and that engine stays very quite. M1 5-30 in the sump. My sons 2007 Ram truck 3.7 V6, very quite . M1 5-30 in the sump.


Edited by tig1 (03/06/14 07:27 PM)
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#3303748 - 03/06/14 07:38 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
Kool1 Offline


Registered: 01/25/13
Posts: 351
Loc: California
Hyundai recommends the factory OEM oil filter if you have a knock on startup. A lot of people, myself included, complain about loud valvetrains with Mobil 1 5W30.

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#3303759 - 03/06/14 07:43 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 1657
Loc: Pennsylvania
I run my 2007 Frontier with the V-6 on Mobil 1 5W30 or 5W-30 EP. Very quiet on both, good gas mileage on the highway and the internals as far as I can see are clean "as a whistle."
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#3303784 - 03/06/14 08:13 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: tig1]
Verminator Offline


Registered: 04/14/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC CANADA
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Verminator
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
My localized VG33E's and 1&3MZ-FE's have always had noise brought out in them by regular Mobil 1. EP and AFE are strangely not a problem.


What about the M1 HM varient? Is it "quieter" than the regular M1 as well?


You need to realize that XM sells millions of quarts of M1 5-30 every year. The vast majority of these buyers do not share your opinion that reg M1 5-30 causes their engines to be noisier than normal. For example, my daughter has, amoung here vehicles, a 2009 Infinity full size SUV with a V8. Here husband changes the oil between 10-15K and that engine stays very quite. M1 5-30 in the sump. My sons 2007 Ram truck 3.7 V6, very quite . M1 5-30 in the sump.


Oh I agree with you that it's good oil and that about a quarter of the population use it. I'm just saying that in my 2004 Santa Fe it DOES make the motor more noisey and from the amount of replies from others this happens in other motors too. In others it's fine as you've pointed out. So this is why I'm trying to find out if the M1 HM is not as noisey in the motors it is otherwise noisey in? I need to change from reg M1 in my Santa Fe to something more quiet, be it the M1 HM or a different brand all together. I do have a 2005 Nissan Frontier as well and it looks like the regular M1 may be okay in that motor, which is the reason for this thread.
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2004 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4L - M1 5W30 + OEM
2009 Hyundai Accent 1.6L - PYB 5W20 dino + OEM
2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L - Castrol GTX 5W30 dino + Napa Gold

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#3303790 - 03/06/14 08:16 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Kool1]
Verminator Offline


Registered: 04/14/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC CANADA
Originally Posted By: Kool1
Hyundai recommends the factory OEM oil filter if you have a knock on startup. A lot of people, myself included, complain about loud valvetrains with Mobil 1 5W30.


Yes I am aware of the Hyundai TSB on using the genuine Hyundai oil filter and I am using it. It's not the oil filter, it's the Mobil 1 5W30. So as I can't stand the noise anymore on my 2004 Santa Fe, I'm hoping I can use it on my 2005 nissan Frontier without the same engine noise as I get on the Santa Fe
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2004 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4L - M1 5W30 + OEM
2009 Hyundai Accent 1.6L - PYB 5W20 dino + OEM
2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L - Castrol GTX 5W30 dino + Napa Gold

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#3303793 - 03/06/14 08:18 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Boomer]
Verminator Offline


Registered: 04/14/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC CANADA
Originally Posted By: Boomer
I run my 2007 Frontier with the V-6 on Mobil 1 5W30 or 5W-30 EP. Very quiet on both, good gas mileage on the highway and the internals as far as I can see are clean "as a whistle."


And this is good news for me as I have a 2005 Frontier and a lot of Mobil 1 5W30 on the shelf. What filter do you use with mobile 1 5W50 on your Frontier? I'm currently using the Napa/wix Gold.
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2004 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4L - M1 5W30 + OEM
2009 Hyundai Accent 1.6L - PYB 5W20 dino + OEM
2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L - Castrol GTX 5W30 dino + Napa Gold

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#3303856 - 03/06/14 09:12 PM Re: "Quiet & Smoth" For 2005 Nissan Frontier 4.0L V6 [Re: Verminator]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11674
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: Verminator
Thanks. So you're suggesting I just stick with the dino oil and not go synthetic?

The best part of his suggestion is you're well aware that GTX is always on sale someplace up here. wink My old LTD saw a lot of GTX 5w-30 bottles over the years, and the sales even back then helped.

As for the M1 HM notion, you won't find that unless you take a trip across the border.
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Plain, simple Garak.

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