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#3299840 - 03/03/14 03:52 AM New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA?
HKPolice Offline


Registered: 03/31/12
Posts: 69
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I'm sure most of you know that PQIA is testing 5w20 dino oil right now and the SOPUS oils seem to have GTL synthetic base stocks: http://www.pqiamerica.com/Feb2014/consolidated5w20ALL.html

6.5% noack is not possible with dino, so did SOPUS make some batches of synth PYB & QSGB or did they switch to GTL basestocks for good? Does anyone have new VOAs for these oils?

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#3299876 - 03/03/14 06:39 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: HKPolice]
TrevorS Offline


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 1281
Loc: California
Will VOA confirm GTL in QSAD or PYB?

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#3299893 - 03/03/14 07:17 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: TrevorS]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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Originally Posted By: TrevorS
Will VOA confirm GTL in QSAD or PYB?


IDK if VOA can pick up the base stock smirk
Other members here may know!
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#3299950 - 03/03/14 08:28 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: HKPolice]
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I`m thinking the pyb and qsad test wasn`t accurate and must be a hiccup. Heck,the flagship Ultra doesn`t even show numbers as good as that. But,who knows,huh.


Edited by aquariuscsm (03/03/14 08:29 AM)
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#3299971 - 03/03/14 08:51 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: aquariuscsm]
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I`m thinking the pyb and qsad test wasn`t accurate and must be a hiccup. Heck,the flagship Ultra doesn`t even show numbers as good as that. But,who knows,huh.


Thats what I was thinking
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#3299972 - 03/03/14 08:52 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: HKPolice]
Miller88 Offline


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Will it still have high moly numbers?
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#3300014 - 03/03/14 09:38 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: aquariuscsm]
Danh Offline


Registered: 10/16/10
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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I`m thinking the pyb and qsad test wasn`t accurate and must be a hiccup. Heck,the flagship Ultra doesn`t even show numbers as good as that. But,who knows,huh.


Ultra has better Noack than the PYB tested but Platinum is worse according the to SOPUS technical data sheets. This wouldn't seem logical, so either:

1) the PQIA test was flawed (but other brands tested seemed right and PYB's QSGB sister product also had low Noack)
2) SOPUS had a temporary surplus of GTL base stocks and elected to put it into PYB and QSGB
3) we really don't understand SOPUS marketing

Until SOPUS published a new technical data sheet for PYB I sure wouldn't assume the PQIA results represent what's in the bottle on the store shelves. This would be a big deal and worth publicizing; that Pennzoil isn't suggests to me this was a "one-off" that won't continue.

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#3301732 - 03/04/14 08:50 PM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: HKPolice]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 10996
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
I dare someone to start a thread and ask Mola if he thinks if PYB has GTL, or, more pointedly, if there are other ways to come up with low NOACK besides using an expensive base stock.
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#3302217 - 03/05/14 11:47 AM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: Garak]
SilverC6 Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
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You have to wonder if premium base stocks are truly expensive.

SOPUS could have it figured out with the GTL angle.

Maybe it's like the real cost of premium gasoline vs. regular.

The price you pay doesn't have anything to do with cost.
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#3302289 - 03/05/14 01:15 PM Re: New Pennzoil Yellow or Quaker State Green VOA? [Re: SilverC6]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
You have to wonder if premium base stocks are truly expensive.

I still doubt it. People are falling for a huge logical fallacy here: GTL provides low NOACK numbers and is produced by Shell. PYB and QSGB have low NOACK numbers and are produced by Shell. Therefore, PYB and QSGB are using GTL.

That doesn't follow unless GTL is the only way to reduce NOACK numbers or the cheapest way to reduce NOACK numbers, and we know that's not the case.
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