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#3293234 - 02/24/14 08:10 PM Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1292
Loc: Colorado Springs
Here is UOA of Mobil1 0W40 after 5,100miles.

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10' VW CC 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)

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#3293273 - 02/24/14 08:40 PM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: edyvw]
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 3352
Loc: FL, USA
Looks great!
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2006 Honda Accord 2.4 128K
M1 AFE 0w20
Fram Ultra

2005 Chevy Uplander 3.5 122K
VML SB 5w30
Fram Ultra

1991 Buick Park Avenue 3.8 115K
QSD 10w30
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#3293293 - 02/24/14 08:59 PM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: gregk24]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1292
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Looks great!


Yeah, I am taken back a little by such a good cst value. Though, TBN seems to dropped a lot, considering it starts at 10.8. It could be due to the fact that GC 0W30 was in the engine before, so it might depleted TBN of M1.
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10' VW CC 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)

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#3293442 - 02/24/14 11:36 PM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: edyvw]
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Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 6918
Loc: Northern Kentucky
That oil didn't shear one bit. Published viscosity is 13.5 cSt @ 100ºC. Good run overall are you going to extend now?
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1999 Ford Taurus 146k (Vulcan v6) - M1 High Mileage 5w30 | Fram Ultra XG 3600
2002 Buick Century 105k - Peak 5w30 / Fram Ultra XG 3980 / Filter mag

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#3293487 - 02/25/14 04:34 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: edyvw]
tstep Offline


Registered: 08/06/11
Posts: 356
Loc: PA
Silicon very slightly up. New air cleaner? Check for proper fit up?

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#3293663 - 02/25/14 09:27 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: 901Memphis]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1292
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
That oil didn't shear one bit. Published viscosity is 13.5 cSt @ 100ºC. Good run overall are you going to extend now?

I switched to M1 ESP 5W30 due to intake deposits.
Will do 3K UOA on that one, then 5K.
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10' VW CC 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)

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#3293664 - 02/25/14 09:27 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: tstep]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1292
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: tstep
Silicon very slightly up. New air cleaner? Check for proper fit up?

It is new Air Filter, Mann!
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10' VW CC 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)

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#3293739 - 02/25/14 10:24 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: edyvw]
BearZDefect Offline


Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 1994
Loc: Lexington, KY
Originally Posted By: edyvw
I switched to M1 ESP 5W30 due to intake deposits.
Will do 3K UOA on that one, then 5K.

Have you noticed increased deposits with M1 0w-40, or is this move because M1 ESP is formulated to minimize such deposits?

Why not go 5K on the first run of ESP?

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#3293743 - 02/25/14 10:29 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: BearZDefect]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1292
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
Originally Posted By: edyvw
I switched to M1 ESP 5W30 due to intake deposits.
Will do 3K UOA on that one, then 5K.

Have you noticed increased deposits with M1 0w-40, or is this move because M1 ESP is formulated to minimize such deposits?

Why not go 5K on the first run of ESP?

Nah, I am not going to check deposits every time I do oil change etc. I switched because M1 ESP looks very good on paper, there were some testimonies that that oil left least amount of deposits on 2.0T in Audi Q5, and then there is Lubrizol study where Low-SAPS oils left 47% less deposits on intake valves and 167% less deposits on exhaust valves (VW504.00/507.00 oils).
You saw TBN in M1 0W40, it went down to 2.6, and it starts at 10.8. In M1 5W30 ESP it starts at 6! So I just want to be sure TBN is retained in sufficient numbers.
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10' VW CC 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)

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#3293748 - 02/25/14 10:32 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: edyvw]
BearZDefect Offline


Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 1994
Loc: Lexington, KY
Thank you for those clarifications. I ask only out of curiousity.

What OCI does VW recommend for this application using an approved oil?

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#3293755 - 02/25/14 10:42 AM Re: Mobil1 0W40, 5,100mi, VW CC 2.0T [Re: BearZDefect]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 1292
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
Thank you for those clarifications. I ask only out of curiousity.

What OCI does VW recommend for this application using an approved oil?

They go for 10K, but considering sulphur in the U.S. gas I think that is way too long.
They switched to 10K once they started to offer free maintenance. So it saves them money, plus they use Castrol 5W40, which is probably one of the worst VW 502.00 oils.
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10' VW CC 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (M1 0W40+OEM-Mann)

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